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    Please explain why. After all, I live in one such area (New Jersey) now.

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    Why do I think Danny boy would not associate with 95% of the people who live in such area's
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    The data are here: http://kff.org/other/state-indicator...te-per-100000/

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    Not to worry everyone. We have ObamaCare. Dan's stats should be invalid within the year. Isn't liberalism/socialism great?
    By the way Dan, what's the source of your stats? The DNC?
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    actual data? what a joke. you're trying to get to the moon in a Hyundai
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    Interesting. Now why don't you tie the two together, this post plus #24, and see what happens? I mean quantitatively. After all, you have shown there are differences in mortality by race, and there is some (albeit weak) correlation with the number of African Americans...but the two don't quite match. Look particularly at the states with the lowest African American population. Are they on the list of lowest mortality rates? Furthermore, New York, New Jersey are near the top of the population, yet do well in mortality. And other states higher on your population list don't show up high on the mortality list, either, such as North Carolina. So I would believe that a quantitative analysis (which I know you are not capable of) would not support your hypothesis.

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    Now overlay that data with his chart. Seems to me Conservative or liberal means little. It would behoove you to change your race. In as much as a majority of certain races register in a specific party, that would be the over-riding factor that skews the statistics. Hence, the more of one race in one specific state, the higher (or lower) the mortality rate would be. It's a shame danny boy's parents spent all that money on his education and he learned so little. His text books must have been printed in Braille.

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    True, but the states are compared on the basis of what makes up the larger percentage of the voting population.

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    The OP's thread makes no sense, Both conservitives and liberals live in all 50 states so there is no correlation. Just tryin to figure out what he is looking for?
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    So find that data for us, and let's compare it. After all, when we look closely at Michael C's attempt to explain the data some other way, that falls apart.

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    Actually it's obesity. The bottom 12 have some of the highest obesity rates. Obesity is more prevalent in minority populations (specifically Black and Latino) than in white pops. As you know minorities tend to vote democrat. So in reality it's fat liberals that are creating the higher mortality rates in these states.
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    And certainly not more Depends Users...

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    That's what this country needs, more coat holders.
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    That's where read about it most recently. But actually it goes back further than that. I recall we discussed this round about the time of the 2012 elections...part of the correlation between income, education, and a number of other social factors with blue states.

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    Ooh, just like those polls before the 2012 election? Those showed Romney winning by a landslide...should I remind you of them? Perhaps of some of the gloating by you and your buddies around that time?

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    He can't stand the fact the Republicans are gaining ground in poll after poll. Things not looking good for the progressives in the 2014 mid term elections.
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    Trying to correlate health with ones political party......WTF? Ever worked in any of these states? I have....a lot of them. It's common to eat fried chicken 3 meals a day. I was stationed in texas, georgia, and south carolina, and worked in lousiana, alabama, and mississippi. I seriously never seen so much fried chicken in my life. 3 meals a day was common.

    Not only that but diet coke, light beer, etc don't even exist down there. The higher then average mortality rate of southern states has been studied many times and the regions diet is always forefront in the conversation. Come on man......this was a dumb post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FisherDan View Post
    True, but the states are compared on the basis of what makes up the larger percentage of the voting population.
    Wow all your employees clocked out at 5:00 pm and you couldn't wait to run to the office and throw 8 deflective responses to your own thread. Danny what does it matter dude its got nada to do with political affiliation. If you think for one second it does I hope your kidding. If not you must be a Athiest. Shame on you if your not.

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    Yes. Even lived in Mississippi for a little while. I have worked extensively in Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, and Georgia over the years.

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    Trying to correlate health with ones political party......WTF? Ever worked in any of these states? I have....a lot of them. It's common to eat fried chicken 3 meals a day. I was stationed in texas, georgia, and south carolina, and worked in lousiana, alabama, and mississippi. I seriously never seen so much fried chicken in my life. 3 meals a day was common.

    Not only that but diet coke, light beer, etc don't even exist down there. The higher then average mortality rate of southern states has been studied many times and the regions diet is always forefront in the conversation. Come on man......this was a dumb post.

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    Since you must be in your car as the limo driver drives you home. (Old limo) I guess you cant answer my last question. I'll throw another fact at you so as to get the mistletoe from your tailbone. Most people retire to southern states to escape the cold.So looking at your stats you can make them do what ever you want its got nothing to do about red or blue.

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    Then what does it have to do with? Do you realize it extends to far more than that. We have discussed many times the correlation with income and education, and states that give more in taxes than they get. Let add a few more. How about divorce rates? The frequency of teen mothers? Frequency of chlamydia? Number of deaths due to firearms? All are, on average, far higher in those same 10 states with the highest mortality rates...

    You can see the information here: http://www.topalli.com/blue/

    So tell me, what makes the Blue states so much better than the red states in essentially every metric? At some point you gotta ask yourself, what are these states doing?

    Or, will you just bury your head in the sand and pretend these data and correlations don't exist or don't mean anything?

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    Wow all your employees clocked out at 5:00 pm and you couldn't wait to run to the office and throw 8 deflective responses to your own thread. Danny what does it matter dude its got nada to do with political affiliation. If you think for one second it does I hope your kidding. If not you must be a Athiest. Shame on you if your not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FisherDan View Post
    Then what does it have to do with? Do you realize it extends to far more than that. We have discussed many times the correlation with income and education, and states that give more in taxes than they get. Let add a few more. How about divorce rates? The frequency of teen mothers? Frequency of chlamydia? Number of deaths due to firearms? All are, on average, far higher in those same 10 states with the highest mortality rates...

    You can see the information here: http://www.topalli.com/blue/

    So tell me, what makes the Blue states so much better than the red states in essentially every metric? At some point you gotta ask yourself, what are these states doing?

    Or, will you just bury your head in the sand and pretend these data and correlations don't exist or don't mean anything?
    Maybe the people in the blue states use their money to keep unhealthy (unwanted) people out of their states.
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