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    The town takes the opportunity to re-assess every property in October. They also spent almost a million dollars to re-evaluate the entire town in 2014. The consultant assessed my new property at $204K and the township's new assessment came in at 214K. Years ago they used to use a formula to calculate what the assessed value based on established rates for square footage of living space ($25/sq ft), storage ($5/sq ft), decks, ($3/sq ft) etc.

    To Lois..the only way to fight your assessment is to appeal it in the spring (April) and you have to get 3 or more comparable sales. Since the 4 bedroom 2.5 bath house next to me just sold for $305,000, I am not going to say anything about my 214K assessment. The value on my assessment for the improvements is what I had put on my certificate of occupancy application for the total cost of construction for my new house. I used the same reasoning that Joey did regarding raising my 50 year old former shack and outing it 10 feet up in the air. I opted to spend the extra 40 grand to buy a brand new state of the art house storm rated to 120mph, which will have much better resale value than the original house. I did not build my forever house. I built something with good resale potential and spent the extra cash for plastic decks, etc....
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    Here is the info I found out. When they title company ran a report they found a "cloud" on the title. It was from the 1960s. It is a tide land claim. Basically they are telling me that the state owns aproximately 16% of that lot. I have to apply for a grant and pay fair market value of that portion. I am surprised that not more of Mystic Island doesn't have this problem as it applies to any water that was filled in.

    "The State of New Jersey claims ownership of these tidelands and holds them in trust for the people of the state. All tidelands are overseen by the Tidelands Resource Council, a board of twelve Governor-appointed volunteers, along with DEP staff at the Bureau of Tidelands Management.

    Since tidelands are public lands, you must obtain written permission from the state and pay a fee in order to use these lands. Common uses of tidelands include docks, mooring piles, bulkheads and other fill materials. Some tidelands may be sold in the form of a Riparian Grant while others may only be rented through either a Tidelands License or Lease."

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    Sound to me like you should be looking into a different lot/house my friend...

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    Quote Originally Posted by danno008 View Post
    Here is the info I found out. When they title company ran a report they found a "cloud" on the title. It was from the 1960s. It is a tide land claim. Basically they are telling me that the state owns aproximately 16% of that lot. I have to apply for a grant and pay fair market value of that portion. I am surprised that not more of Mystic Island doesn't have this problem as it applies to any water that was filled in........
    Quote Originally Posted by HuntFish12 View Post
    Sound to me like you should be looking into a different lot/house my friend...
    Agree. There are far too many lots and homes for sale in Mystic to get involved in something that's a mess before you even get involved.
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    I'd stay away from any of those streets over there. The lagoon ends are shoaled up. Dead low tide and strong West winds and you can forget about getting in/out.
    The Elevation is also lower over there. When there is a full moon and consistent N'oreast winds, they call me up and ask how high is the water on your bulkhead. I have boat customers on those blocks, Dory, N. Ensign.
    I live off Calabreeze, the group of streets on the left past Center St. I'd look for a house over there. I'm still on a slab and did not raise. We dont want to deal with steps and elevators. Had 14" of water during Sandy. And my lagoon is deep. Yup, I still worry about storms but even during the early 90's storms, the water never came up to the house. But yes, its Weather and anything can happen.
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    anyones pipes freezing up? I have hot tape on the main coming into the house but now the house is 10' in the air I'm having some freeze up issues, didn't freeze at all last year

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    Quote Originally Posted by muddy View Post
    anyones pipes freezing up? I have hot tape on the main coming into the house but now the house is 10' in the air I'm having some freeze up issues, didn't freeze at all last year
    We've had a house on OI for 23 years now. Been raised since we bought it. We also happen to have a maze work of pipes in our shed. What we did was heat tape the entire main coming from the ground up to the house. Then OVER the heat tape we carefully insulated. You need both. Don't be afraid to over do it on the heat tape. My buddy who had the same issue, built a small enclosure with insulation around his pipes. If your pipes are exposed to the elements, this may be the way to go.

    I know that if your pipes are open to the elements the heat tape alone will not do it. You need the insulation as well.
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    Exactly what Big Jay explained needs to be done pipe insulation/box it in with hard insulation and if needed enclose with treated plywood if subject to damage.
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    I had a problem the first winter before I got the sheet rock installed under the house. My pipe coming in is inside of my garage so no issues with that, plus it is insulated. I had to out heat trace and 2 layers of insulation on the pipes under the house before I got the floor closed in.
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    I have the bottom enclosed just cement board no insulation. The main is heat wrapped and boxed in inside the garage. Strange I had cold water only on first floor, no hot. No water at all upstairs.,,I will keep the water set to a drip from now on. Looking into heating the basement at some point. I hate the idea of breaking open double 5/8 ceiling to insulate some of the pipes further

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    Take a look at how your drain lines run..mine are outside for the most part and I had a 3" lateral pipe that was pretty flat freeze solid during the polar vortex of 2014 when I was dripping water from one of my bathrooms. Do your pipes run in any of the exterior walls? I had an issue with some of mine as it was the side of the house the winter wind hits. I ended up heat tracing everything and when I enclosed it, I left it on with the plugs sticking out of the ceiling in case I need it again, which I have not since I enclosed, but I also insulted the floor, which gets noticeably cold in the winter compared to the floor over my garage.
    Chris Miller
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    I know everyone uses heat tape, but be careful with it. My nephew's girlfriends house just burnt to the ground due to a short in the tape. It ran on a pipe that entered the house near vinyl siding, and it shorted and set the siding on fire which in turn ignited the deck. The fire Deprt. said that was the hot spot they found.

    Just an FYI.

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