foureel, thanks. it started when i got so fed up with a penn 5500 bail snapping closed every cast. and loosing plugs constantly. i had this reel for a while gathering dust, i saw what other guys were doing with them and thought what the heck. fired up the drill press and went crazy. then sand blasted all the paint off and was gonna repaint it. figured i would see what it looked like polished and that is where im at. i was gonna drop some $ on a new surf plugging reel but alot of the guys say these reels are very good. we will see. i put 40lb braid on it and got a bailess kit, it feels good on a 9ft tica rod, i have to get used to the bailess idea but with the other reel i couldnt cast very hard for fear of the bail snapping closed.