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    Hi
    It's time I traded my cushy sea ray 18' bowrider for a proper fishing vessel

    I have a lead on a nicely kept 1979 20' walk through Model
    302 ford raw water cooled ( not too keen on the raw water cooling)
    It co,es with a 2010 Ace trailer dual axle aluminum model with brakes
    Guy said his Dad paid close to $3,000 alone for trailer
    from what I can see, The bimini is in perfect condition and the eisenglass is clear. *Included are a brand new in box Furuno gps model gp-32 and a brand new in box Furuno color LCD sounder model fcv-600L.

    Does anyone have opinions or experience with Shamrock boats
    I know it's old, but it is very clean
    What should I look out for ??
    I am going to see it this Sunday
    The guy is askin $5k but will haggle

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    We have 2 26' and use to have a 20' a few years back. The 20' is a wet boat and they all pound in choppy conditions. Good boats for sure but they ride and handle much different then your sea ray. How many hours are on the motor?
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    Default Shamrock - engine hrs

    I am going to chat with the gent tonite. So I will be sure to inquire about hrs on engine, rebuild status, etc

    I am a bit iffy on the raw water cooling, as this gents father bought the boat from the original owner who had the boat on the Jersey shore

    I did notice this boat seems a bit shallow bottomed, so I can guess they do pound pretty good, but I would guess they are pretty stable once on the fishing grounds (is that correct??)

    I also want to ask him for a sea trial, as I firmly believe in that.
    Who'd buy a used car without taking it fir a test drive .. :-)

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    great boats hand down been on many of them
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    Pnarrows... you may want to go to the Shamrock owners website Fishtheclassic.net

    You will find a great deal of info on Shamrock boats.

    I had a 20' Center Console (20' Open) for 4 years. Was a good boat but as Phil said wet.. I added spray rails which cut down a great deal on the spray. I moved onto a 26'er and love the boat. Finally got all of the kinks worked out and she is great. In my opinion there is no better more stable platform to fish on than a full keeled boat. The 20er feels like a much larger boat and is as stable as can be.
    The only concern I would have is the raw water cooled engine. Salt water is not too friendly to any engines and inboards are no exception. You can convert to fresh water but you need to make sure that the prior owner flushed the system and took good care of the boat. Check the risers and manifolds.
    Best of luck and email any questions.
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    Default Thanks guys

    The guys Dad in law has had it for 2 yrs and didn't use it much
    Prior to that original owner moored it at Jersey shore

    A lot of folks are saying beware of an older raw water cooled boat that spent its life in salt water especially if it's the original engine

    Gonna chat with the fella tonite

    Tp be contd...

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    Go into it knowing you'll be replacing the manifolds and risers and adding a freshwater cooling system and price it accordingly.
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    I owned 2 26 footers and there is a 20'er sitting on blocks down the road. They are very stable boats..drift well and are efficient. When it gets crappy out, you trim the bow down and plow along..they are wet due to their level running attitude...where as your sea ray ran with her nose up in the air....if the engine is original, there is going to be alot of rust and corrosion on the inside of the engine. The exhasut manifolds and elbows rust on the inside and scale up restricting water flow adn the engine runs hot..the elbows are usually easy to change but the manifolds can be tough to get off since the bolt heads will be rusted....my last boat was repowered with a new raw water cooled engine that cost the former owner about 3 grand...when I got it I installed a half fresh water cooling system that cost me about 900 bucks.....

    The boat will run much different than a deep v planing hull. It will slip up onto plane at 11 knots at about 2000 rpms..she will chug along comfortable from 11 knots to 23 knots....Shammies do not lean into a turn like a v hull will..she will stay level...very different handling...when it gets crappy out, slow down trim down the bow and enjoy the ride...rainex will be your best friend...
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    Default shamrock

    shamrock has a strong hull but get ready to drop a new motor in. Include that in your figures now so your not surprised down the road.

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    Good Advice on here.
    Even if you repower (cost will be 1/2 that of an outboard) you will have a boat that will last your for years!
    One thing you may want to do is take a sail on a shammy to get a feel for the inboard.
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    One thing I never asked was where the f**k my deadbeat dad was. F**k it I guess he had trouble keeping up with every address. But I'd have flipped every mattress, every rock and desert cactus. Own a collection of maps and followed my kids to the edge of the atlas if someone ever moved them from me? That you coulda' bet your asses..
    If I had to come down the chimney dressed as Santa, kidnap them whatever it took to keep my kids close to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BT3100 View Post
    Good Advice on here.
    Even if you repower (cost will be 1/2 that of an outboard) you will have a boat that will last your for years!
    One thing you may want to do is take a sail on a shammy to get a feel for the inboard.
    You need to bring a Sail on a shammy, those inboards must not be very reliable How tall of a mast is required?
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    May as well have a sail. Was on a friend of a friends Shammy of that vintage; thing was the slow boat to china. 20KN maybe?

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    I had a 302 in my 22ft thompson top speed was about 25mph, was fresh water cooled good thing about 302's is you can get parts for them at auto stores much cheaper than marine parts


    turn the poachers in & stop the waste

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    The upside of them is comfort..they are very comfortable boats to run and fish on. The straight inboard engine is easy to work on and you dont need to be a computer technician like with the new outboards. If you have a problem, it's usually gas or spark..not much else there. The true downside of them is the lack of speed on a nice day. That was one of the reasons I sold my last one. Nice flat calm days, it was still a 21-22 knot boat, which for fishing around the bay and inlet is no big deal, but if you have aspirations for 30-50 mile runs offshore like I did, it can be an issue. My current boat can wail along at 35 knots still netting 2 mpg. It is not quite the rough water boat that the Shammie was, but I can wind her up and fly. If you like fishing in the fall, they make wonderful heaters that you can tap into the cooling system and work just like your car/truck. The helm of my Shammies was 70 degrees even when there was ice on the deck.
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    Default Shamrock boats

    Shamrocks are very sea worthy however thru my experiances I would reccomend a 26'. when I was looking for one I researched them and I have had mine now for 20 years. She is for sale. If you would like more information or would like to see her give me a call.

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