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Boundforglory
01-18-2008, 07:48 AM
Stripers Forever Members - striped bass forage has always been of concern to our organization. For several years now, there has been an ongoing controversy about the role of menhaden in the Chesapeake Bay ecosystem. We are sending this message to you in support of the Menhaden Restoration Group, a group that is focusing its attention on restoring and protecting the populations of menhaden found in our coastal waters.
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Recent studies have indicated that the availability of menhaden is critical to the sustainability of striped bass. There are indications that the abundance of menhaden has decreased to the point where their role as forage and filter feeder is not being fulfilled. The ASMFC has not responded to public concerns in a meaningful fashion, and show no signs of changing their position that the menhaden stocks are not overfished and that overfishing is not occurring.
~Because of the lack of effective management of~this critical resource, United States Congressman Wayne Gilchrest (Maryland) has introduced HR3841. This bill proposes to eliminate the practice of purse seining of menhaden in both federal and state waters for reduction purposes. The bill is straight-forward and has no apparent loopholes. We believe our membership should e-mail their respective legislators in support of this measure as the most practical resolution of a very serious situation.
Everyone can find and e-mail their congressperson by going to

https://forms.house.gov/htbin/wrep_findrep

Your message could be as simple as this (just copy and paste the message), “Dear Congressperson (their name) my name is (your name) and I live in your congressional district. Striped bass and the marine environment are very important to me. Menhaden are the number one forage of the striped bass, plus they are an important filter feeder. I believe that fishery managers have not done nearly enough to conserve menhaden stocks, and I therefore urge you to become a cosponsor of HR3841, a bill that would eliminate the practice of purse seining menhaden for reduction purposes. Please let me know how you have decided to act on this matter. (Your name again and e-mail address)”

Captain Ken W
01-18-2008, 09:36 AM
Just sent an email to Congressman Smith.
Everyone should do this today!
The site is very easy to navigate, just put in your zip code and it tells you who your representative is. Then it brings you to a screen where you put in your name and address and then another screen where you copy and paste the message in the previous post. Takes no more than three minutes to accomplish.

Boundforglory
01-23-2008, 07:50 AM
Is this not an important issue????????

Fishpicker
01-23-2008, 07:56 AM
You guys better rethink this one !!!!! In the end it is you that is going to be hurt.

Seaclusion
01-23-2008, 08:09 AM
You guys better rethink this one !!!!! In the end it is you that is going to be hurt.

Fishpicker, I don't get your reply. Are you against this bill and if so why?

Fishpicker
01-23-2008, 08:12 AM
Fishpicker, I don't get your reply. Are you against this bill and if so why?


Do you know what this bill is about ?????

Seaclusion
01-23-2008, 09:17 AM
I am not that knowledgable about it but believe the bill is to reduce or eliminate the harvesting of menhaden at the base of the Chesapeake bay for use in pet food, etc. I also know the health of the Chesapeake has supposedly been going down and the reduction in menhaden numbers is a possible cause. As far as bill specifics, no I do not know much about the bill. That is why I was asking you about your post. I am not being a jerk, just trying to get informed on the subject. I was not sure by your reply if you were getting on people for not contacting their congressmen or if you were getting on Boundforglory because you disagree with his stance.

fatboy
01-23-2008, 11:45 AM
It the begining of the end...In one way or another.

Boundforglory
01-23-2008, 12:22 PM
I read it as follows from the email I received;

"Because of the lack of effective management of~this critical resource, United States Congressman Wayne Gilchrest (Maryland) has introduced HR3841. This bill proposes to eliminate the practice of purse seining of menhaden in both federal and state waters for reduction purposes."

So is it to eliminate purse seining of Menhaden-Bunker for reduction purposes? How many commerical interest are involved with this type of process? If the government can take my property for a commercial development they can sure as h*ll close down a few guys making dog food or oil/lubricant as far as I'm concerned if it will help increase the Bunker population.

As far as I know, through the life of a Bunker there's always something there trying to eat it. If there's more of them out there filter feeding, then there's more of them for Weakfish, Fluke, Bluefish, Stripers, Sharks, Tuna, etc. to feed on.

R & R
01-23-2008, 12:46 PM
& bait will come from where?

Fishpicker
01-23-2008, 01:34 PM
I am not that knowledgable about it but believe the bill is to reduce or eliminate the harvesting of menhaden at the base of the Chesapeake bay for use in pet food, etc. I also know the health of the Chesapeake has supposedly been going down and the reduction in menhaden numbers is a possible cause. As far as bill specifics, no I do not know much about the bill. That is why I was asking you about your post. I am not being a jerk, just trying to get informed on the subject. I was not sure by your reply if you were getting on people for not contacting their congressmen or if you were getting on Boundforglory because you disagree with his stance.



I disagree with this bill because it is not based on science it is based on Hatred. If Mr Burns and company really cared about the predator prey issue , then they would be trying to force NMFS and each state to open spiny dogs.

Bob ECT
01-23-2008, 01:38 PM
You guys better rethink this one !!!!! In the end it is you that is going to be hurt.

Here comes the scare spin :D

Boundforglory
01-23-2008, 04:30 PM
You might have a vaild point there. I would give you my vote for harvesting more Dogfish!

Boundforglory
01-23-2008, 04:33 PM
& bait will come from where?
From guys like Fishpicker since it's calling for elimination of the reduction process not harvesting for bait.

Guatemala Dave
01-23-2008, 05:05 PM
No where in the bill did I read no harvest, just no purse seine for reduction.

Fish Picker I thought you used a gillnet. If they do stop the small BAIT BOATS from purse seining it seems like your gillnetted fish would be worth even more.

johnny d
01-26-2008, 01:54 AM
It's about time the fed's step in to stop this B.S. Virgina policitican's didn't have the balls to stand up to Omega. Bunker are more valuable than to be turned into fertizler and pet food.

FISH BUCKET
01-26-2008, 08:23 AM
what a surprise,fishpicker is against something that slows down the systematic raping of the oceans by commercials!
"It's about time the fed's step in to stop this B.S. Virgina policitican's didn't have the balls to stand up to Omega. Bunker are more valuable than to be turned into fertilizer and pet food."
amen to that!
if the regulatory agencies were doing their job,you wouldn't need bills like this.but they ain't so you do.
".....really cared about the predator prey issue , then they would be trying to force NMFS and each state to open spiny dogs."
now on this i have to agree with his opinion.

johnny d
01-26-2008, 12:13 PM
I believe all fish stocks would be healthier if their where more bunker around. Water quality of our bays would be better, Bunker act as a natural filteration for the bays. That is why Chesapeake is such a mess because VA let Omega net bunker in the bays.:mad: