Braid line vs. Mono

[bornband]

Just putting in a question as to how many people use braided line. I just switched on one of my rods last season and I really liked it a lot. A lot of sensitivity and strength.

Anyone troll with it want to talk about how you join the braid to the flurocarbon leader? I believe some use a swivel and others tie directly from braid to fluro.

Thanks. :)

[Bob ECT]

Uni to Uni knot if it's under 60lb mono

[Mullica Bob]

All I run is braid, cast, troll and bait.

[reelfaster]

Uni to Uni knot if it's under 60lb mono

I concur...! :)

[AJ168]

Without braid I feel blind. I use almost nothing but braid anymore. When I attatch it to mono or fluoro leader, I either use a barrel swivel or my version of a uni to uni knot. A uni to uni is basically two cinch knots on top of one another, so I tie it as just that. Tie one cinch with the end open, then tie another through the open end of the first one. I find it easier to tie than the regular uni to uni.

[Marine Tom]

Braid is the new big deal, I'm converted.

[zar2754]

uni to uni is good, so is the reverse albright with lock, i always tie leaders

[fishincrazy]

I LOVE IT!!!!!!:D
It's like havin eye's at the end of your line.I use it for everything!!!:D

[Wahoo-26]

how you join the braid to the flurocarbon leader? I believe some use a swivel and others tie directly from braid to fluro.

There is no need for fluorocarbon when trolling. The only advantage is the abraison resistance. The cost far outweights the benefit. Just go up one line weight in good mono and you are good to go...

As for knots. Tie a bimini in the braid, then tie a uni to uni (doubled braid) to mono. This will prevent the braid from cutting the mono.

Another way is to use a bimini in the braid and a reverse albright between the braid and mono, slightly more difficult to tie but goes through the guides a little smoother.

Brett

[Wahoo-26]

A uni to uni is basically two cinch knots on top of one another, so I tie it as just that.

A uni knot is not the same as a clinch knot. Look at them again. If what you are using works for you then use it. However on a large fish, with tight drags (proper settings of 30%) you will likely cut off the mono with the braid.

The best solution is as I just posted. Thats the way the pro's (I am not one of them) do it, and I heed their advice. There have been many fish lost experimenting with the best knots; I dont need to prove or disprove their methods. I know it works and do what I have learned from seasoned guys like Basil and many guys on the left coast who have fished braid on big fish for years...

Good luck.

Brett

[thediehardfisherman]

I use braid for deep water and drifting. MONO FOR DRUM AND STRIPERS-makes it more of a challange to catch 70LB+ Drum on 30lb mono. I think braids' cheating in a way but don't get me wrong, if the technology is there then use it. Its very sensative (especially for weak fish). When I fish wrecks 80+ feet of water braid is a plus on hook ups-@ 100' of water, and you get a hit down that deep. Well, when you set the hook using mono line the hook only moves about 3-5" cause of the elasticity in the line. (hence braid has no stretch and is ideal for deep water)

[SRF]

Whats mono:D

I do actually use mono on my rod for live lining bunker...thats about it. Its a heavy duty rod rated to up 80lb line.

[molson]

only braid here

[bornband]

I truly feel that flurocarbon makes a HUGE difference. Fish can see braid and mono. I have witnessed fish in skinny water come up to and look at a chunk bait that was tied directly to mono and they turned away, but when I put a flurocarbon leader and my buddy kept his I was hooking up almost every cast. I have to beoieve that trolling would be similar even if they have less time to look at the offering.

Thanks for all the responses. :D

[GoNavy]

PP or Fireline - That's all I use.

I like the 20lb Fireline, the heavier stuff is PP.

[Keyman]

I agree with bornband as far as stripers being able to see braid and mono. I have proven the case while fishing Delaware Bay for spring stripers. At times if the water is turbid it doesn't make a difference. If the water is clean and on a sunny day flouro works better. Also the line weight and color when using mono makes a difference on hook ups. I prefer braid when fishing deep water for the feel and use of less weight.

[LamiglasMike]

MONO whats MONO!:D

[SRF]

Bornband

Are you talking leaders or main line here?

With PP I always use a mono or flouro leader, but considering I had no problem catching Bass (chunking)using steel because of the Blues, I would not waist Flouro on chunking for bass. Plugging is a different story.....

[brew]

all braid on everything but trolling reels right now. but when I have to re-line the trolling gear I think I'm going with braid on them, maybe with mono topshot.

[Re-Bait]

Braid cuts my hands, I'm diabetic, so i only use it sparingly. even with top shots of mono, sometimes you have to handle the line, like when you get tangles.

It causes wind knots, so I don't use it on my bunker/bait casting spinners.

I prefer mono tuna chunking, though top shots do work well, as long as it's a long top shot. While trolling it's nice to have braid as backing, just in case.

For white water trolling, i prefer all mono, 20lb test.

Braid is excellent for fluke fishing, jigging, and deep drops. Overtime I'll probably use more of it, not less:D

I have one question, why the preference for Jerry brown braid on offshore rods????



PS I'm trying to downsize my sig pic!!!

[AJ168]

I thought that if you were to actually break down what you're doing in a uni to uni, it essentially came out to two cinch knots working on top of one another. Or I could be thinking of some other knot alltogether.
So far though, I've been using that knot for 3 seasons now, and knock on wood, have yet to have a failure.

[Cow Hunter]

I think both the uni to uni and the albright knots work well. I prefer the albright knot (and don't forget the lock) because its smaller than the uni to uni and casts better. I use it for all of my top shots/ shock leaders.

[Captain's John & Diana]

All my reels have hollow core JB spectra with a mono top shot but no florocarbon leaders. We used 175 lb mono 6-8 ft. leaders most of the time with a spro swivel that fit through all our big foot guides on all my trolling rigs. We crimp everything. This was mainly used for inshore bluefin trolling which we did a lot of last season fishing planners and wwwwwwwback set ups.
The spectra allowed us to fish wwwwwwwwwback and still have enough line capcity. We switch up leader lengths and sizes and do put out lighter floro leaders in the 125 lb range at times when the bite was slow or a lot of boat traffic trolling but all spectra with mono top shots is what we use now. Inshore striper fishing I use mainly all mono but like the braid for black drum as it is so sensitive.

[Wahoo-26]

I have one question, why the preference for Jerry brown braid on offshore rods????

Jerry Brown Industries makes a very nice hollow core Spectra, they were the first to mass produce it I think. With Hollow core Spectra, like Dacron, you can make nice neat loops by inserting the end back into itself (i.e. no knots). That means you have 100% breaking strength, actually more at the knot. Thats why its so popular.

There are a contingent of guys on the left coast that have made this stuff very popular...

Now several manufactureres are making it though, JB, Blackwater, PowerPro and Izorline and I am probably not naming them all. In any event the first person to be successful is generally the one with the most notoriety. Take Xerox for example, everyone who has been around thinks of them when thinking of copy machines...

I have had great success with JB hollow core and Izorline solid so I use them. I use Powerpro for bottom fishing and inshore, its thin and cheap so when it gets funky I replace it. The JB and Izor last a long time, I am still using the same line on a few reels since 1999 or so.

Brett