Wire Line Setup

[Anthony C.]

Hey guys, I'd like to setup a few rods for wire while waiting for the boat to go back in the water in the spring. I'm starting off with 113H's on some sturdy 6.5' boat rods. What are your recommendations on wire? Do you use mono backing? What type of wire do you use? Monel or Stainless? Any suggestions would be great!

[Barnegat Light Mike]

What are you looking to troll on the wire? Personally, I troll bunker spoons on 9' soft tipped Seeker rods. I doubt you'll get the right action on sturdy 6.5' rods if you're looking to troll bunker spoons. I use Monel with braided Dacron as the backing.

[Anthony C.]

Probably umbrellas and Stretchs.

[Barnegat Light Mike]

I've had good luck fishing umbrellas and stretches on braided line. Much easier and less hassle than wire.

[Anthony C.]

But isn't the point of using wire for the weight to get the lures down faster?

[Barnegat Light Mike]

Although I'd love to hear from others on this topic, I don't use wire to get the lures down faster but rather deeper with the same amount of line/wire. I have no trouble getting umbrellas down with drails (and it doesn't seem to affect the action). As for stretches, I use them as-is with the braid. That's just me though. What do others do?

[green dodge]

i had good luck this season trolling stretch 25's on 20 & 30 lb. mono with a short leader. did my best in 18-25 feet of water trolling slow as possible. :)

[Chris Gatley]

Probably umbrellas and Stretchs.

wire is very efficient in my opinion and it can get deep like previously mentioned vs. braid and leadcore. great for umbrellas but probably not needed for stretches. braid will do just fine on stretches. I do however run sebile magic swimmers off of wire an do very well when i am trying to mimic herring. i can troll super slow and deep when rigged with a sebile. I run monel because it is a little softer than stainless making it slightly easier to work with. i also run 200 yards on 50 pound mono as backing to 300 feet of wire. that works for me so i stick with it.

Right now, my website is down for the weekend but when its back up, i do have video on wire trolling stuff. even the rods in action (if using bunker spoons), umbrella rigging with trophy teasers and more. It is on the subscribers side but I can swap out sample videos so you can see what works for me. send me a PM if you want to see the video Anthony C and I will move it over. I just can't do it till monday. I do go away on tuesday night after fishing so if you don't catch me monday, it'll have to wait till after the holidays.

[Mullica Bob]

Probably umbrellas and Stretchs.

Go with braid. I've run wire and braid and won't be going back to wire anytime soon. I've had the same results and much easier to deal with braid.

[Anthony C.]

Hey guys thanks for all the input. Instead of faster I meant deeper yes. What is the benefits of using braid or dacron vs mono when trolling? I use PowerPro for fluking etc is that the same thing?

[Mullica Bob]

Anthony, all I run is Power Pro. "Braid" has a thinner diameter than mono and allows the rig to run deeper.

[Barnegat Light Mike]

Hey guys thanks for all the input. Instead of faster I meant deeper yes. What is the benefits of using braid or dacron vs mono when trolling? I use PowerPro for fluking etc is that the same thing?

I use dacron as the BACKING for my wire. Personally, I believe the dacron provides better protection of the spool from the wire (as compared to mono).

As for advantages, frankly, wire is a pain (e.g., kinks, ensuring it's reeled properly on the spool, etc.). Regardless, I haven't found anything more effective for bunker spoons. Although wire is effective for umbrellas, I don't feel like I lose that much using braid (Power Pro) and a drail. Just my $0.02. As Chris mentioned above, braid works fine for stretches.

Hope this helps -- it's just what I do. Others do things differently, I'm sure, but I've had good success this way.

[31jj]

Don't you guys worry about trolling braid and taking the chance of the lines getting crossed and cutting off another?

[Mullica Bob]

Don't you guys worry about trolling braid and taking the chance of the lines getting crossed and cutting off another?

That comment makes as much sense as a bowl of mice.:nuts:

Ever seen what happens when wire comes across itself or anything else?

[hammerheadman]

Hey guys, I'd like to setup a few rods for wire while waiting for the boat to go back in the water in the spring. I'm starting off with 113H's on some sturdy 6.5' boat rods. What are your recommendations on wire? Do you use mono backing? What type of wire do you use? Monel or Stainless? Any suggestions would be great!
Anthony I use a 8 ft. seeker bunker spoon rod with a daiwa 400hw reel 40 lb. mono backing with 40 lb. monel wire . I only use 150 yds. of wire and I send it all out conditions permiting.The mono is at the tip tip so it wont kink up as much. If you want to troll umbrella rigs.,the set up you have might be better but the reel should have a brass spool not aluminum. The 113hsp. penn senator is made for wire.as the daiwa 400hw.with bunker spoons you need a soft rod to bend and flex with the spoon to give it the proper action.Good luck

[Fish Poison]

Here is a common set up that I handlle;
8' long, choice of silicon or 'braced' carboloy[epoxy encapsulated] guides
2 pc Aluminum Butt. [no plastic in base assembly]
boats name,striper decal. choice of colors.
Penn 113HSP 4/0, 40 lb monel [pre marked]

BEWARE of plastic handle assemblies, non braced or non coated carboloy.

[Re-Bait]

I hate braid cause it cuts my hands and tangles are next to impossible to undue.

I fish $15 packs of leadcore line, with a 20 foot topshot of 80lb mono....and mono backing....Seeker rods both 7 and 8 foot. 7 for umbrellas and streches, 8 for spoons

[ppmfish]

used lead core this year and also power pro with 1lb. drails. prefered the drails

[31jj]

That comment makes as much sense as a bowl of mice.:nuts:

Ever seen what happens when wire comes across itself or anything else?


I don't believe I said anything about wire. I was asking about braid.

[Barnegat Light Mike]

I don't believe I said anything about wire. I was asking about braid.

I think his point was that wire would be more likely to cut off lines than braid.

Regardless I'll answer your question: Don't you guys worry about trolling braid and taking the chance of the lines getting crossed and cutting off another?

No.

[31jj]

I think his point was that wire would be more likely to cut off lines than braid.

Regardless I'll answer your question: Don't you guys worry about trolling braid and taking the chance of the lines getting crossed and cutting off another?

No.


Simple and to the point, thanks B L Mike.

[Mullica Bob]

I don't believe I said anything about wire. I was asking about braid.

This is a thread about wire. Everything tangles, mono, braid, wire. You can't mention one without the other.

[Anthony C.]

Thanks for all the options guys. I do have a big roll of Power Pro sitting around so maybe I'll spool that up and try trolling that in the Spring. I'm not a fan of spoons, simply because I don't have a lot of experience with them. I've always had better luck on umbrellas and stretches. Maybe I'll have to give them another try next year.

[prumsey]

Anthony,

I switched over to wire line using 113H this year on both 30 lb monel & 40 lb monel trolling bunker spoons and umbrella tubes & shads. I had the best bass fishingyear on my boat ever and I troll almost exclusively. I had many days this fall with 100 + fish days and even on those days when many trollers had little to show for their efforts I had 10 - 20 fish days which I believe was due mainly to wire line trolling. Yes it's a pain, it kinks, it's expensive, etc. etc. etc. but for catching fish on the troll I don't believe their is a better method. As far as stretches, your better off trolling with mono. These lures are designed to run at 25, 30 or 40 feet dependent on lure and speed and the wire line really doesn't add anything to these lures so my set-up is 2 wire lines off the transom and trolling two stretches on opposite gunnel rod holders. My last day was Thursday December 18th and I had 11 fish on the troll when the few other boaters that were out had 1 or 2 fish trolling the exact same spot. Wire line rules. Good luck next season and run them slow and deep on wire!:thumbsup: