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We had a busy day in the shop today, so busy that I gave a guy the wrong fishing license. (Kind of like Wal-mart) Instead of giving him an individual bay license, I gave him a boat crabbing license. They are both 15.00.
Anyway, he called the shop from Turkey Point and spoke to Herb, telling him he got the wrong license. Herb told him to stop on by on his way home and he would take care of it.
He came in, got his license exchanged for the right one. He told Herb that he and his son caught 6 Rockfish today, off the shore at Turkey Point. He said that 5 of them were between 18 and 20 inches and one was about 20 pounds. He showed Herb a picture of the 20 pounder which he took with his cell phone. He was fishing a little to the Northeast side of the point and was using bloodworms.
Ele
johnrogers
03-15-2009, 09:43 PM
Great news can't wait to get out there
capt. ed
03-16-2009, 06:26 AM
Checked out Stemmers Run over the weekend. I saw no debris, water a bit off but not horrible. It was certainly fishable with bait. Like to see a real warm up very soon.
lightman
03-16-2009, 09:40 AM
A buddy was out over the weekend And got into them but he also tore up a prop. He said there is alot of junk under the water so take it easy out there.:wave:
2dogs
03-16-2009, 09:55 AM
Thanks Ele, been waiting for the word. See you soon. Ken
bobabouy
03-16-2009, 11:31 AM
We had a busy day in the shop today, so busy that I gave a guy the wrong fishing license. (Kind of like Wal-mart) Instead of giving him an individual bay license, I gave him a boat crabbing license. They are both 15.00.
Anyway, he called the shop from Turkey Point and spoke to Herb, telling him he got the wrong license. Herb told him to stop on by on his way home and he would take care of it.
He came in, got his license exchanged for the right one. He told Herb that he and his son caught 6 Rockfish today, off the shore at Turkey Point. He said that 5 of them were between 18 and 20 inches and one was about 20 pounds. He showed Herb a picture of the 20 pounder which he took with his cell phone. He was fishing a little to the Northeast side of the point and was using bloodworms.
Ele burn baby burn:huh:
VF Fishhead
03-16-2009, 01:56 PM
burn baby burn:huh:
O Qua Tanz Enwa:wave:
burn baby burn:huh:
May I have a clarification on your quote.
Ele
Thats Numbnut for "dont tell people where the fish are" People on this site believe that you should only mention that you caught a fish in the water and give no more Info or run the risk of a group of Internet Lurkers that will follow you from your driveway til they have indentified exactly where you caught a fish:huh:
May I have a clarification on your quote.
Ele
Thats Numbnut for "dont tell people where the fish are" People on this site believe that you should only mention that you caught a fish in the water and give no more Info or run the risk of a group of Internet Lurkers that will follow you from your driveway til they have indentified exactly where you caught a fish:huh:
No people on here believe you should honor the rules you agreed to to join.
No Spot Burning! We asks that you DO NOT include specific locations (spots) in your reports. Include as much useful information as possible without adding to the long list of issues anglers are already faced with i.e., loss of available fishing locations, overcrowding, litter, complaints, parking, etc, etc, etc. It's your responsibility as a member to keep the best interest of anglers in mind at all times when posting on the board.
Russ
LONEWOLF856
03-17-2009, 11:13 PM
Thats Numbnut for "dont tell people where the fish are" People on this site believe that you should only mention that you caught a fish in the water and give no more Info or run the risk of a group of Internet Lurkers that will follow you from your driveway til they have indentified exactly where you caught a fish:huh:
jc, based on what you've said, you have obviously have never seen it happen. i have seen it happen. Maybe someday, you will see, what happens when your spot gets torched. :(
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Guatemala Dave
03-18-2009, 06:58 AM
And please keep posting more. Some of the barners don't understand that is is our job to give out the best information possible because if we can send a customer out to catch a fish we will make a customer for life.
NOW I strongly suggest that if you want to keep information to yourself, keep the information to your self. DO NOT take pictures, Definately do not show them to your local tackle shop, and do not go near the internet.
BTW, I've been wanting to get to Turkey Point for years, it's no secrete and maybe this year I'll get out to say Hi and catch some fish.
LONEWOLF856
03-18-2009, 07:41 AM
The Barn has a e-mail system in place, so, if you want to let your close buddies/friends know of something special going on. its there to use, its FREE, it doesn't cost ya a dime! :rolleyes:
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dixie noormiss
03-18-2009, 08:39 AM
Guys, the spot Ele mentioned "burned" to ashes years ago. It isn't a secret spot, and is always crowded with shore anglers when the stripers are in. It is a public access spot known to many. I don't consider that spot burning in the least...
Out of Bait Nate
03-18-2009, 10:00 AM
yeah it's hardly spot burning when you get 15 boats crowded around there every day after April 1st
MikeD.
03-18-2009, 10:29 AM
Well said Dave!
You know, I really don't know if I want to post any reports on this website. Last year, I posted some fishing reports and got blasted because I mentioned my son was a fishing guide. That was not allowed because I did not pay to advetise. My first three posts got wiped off the board before I knew what I was doing wrong.
On my first report this year I mention Turkey Point. Well, Turkey Point consists of about 3 miles of shore line where people fish from shore who don't have boats.
I also mentioned the flats. The flats is about 20 square miles. Where in either of these areas did I mention a particular spot?
Sometimes it isn't worth the effort if you are going to get criticized everytime you post a report.
So, should my next report say something like, "A guy came in my shop today and said he caught some Stripers."
Can I mention what they were caught on?
Ele
You know, I really don't know if I want to post any reports on this website. Last year, I posted some fishing reports and got blasted because I mentioned my son was a fishing guide. That was not allowed because I did not pay to advetise. My first three posts got wiped off the board before I knew what I was doing wrong.
On my first report this year I mention Turkey Point. Well, Turkey Point consists of about 3 miles of shore line where people fish from shore who don't have boats.
I also mentioned the flats. The flats is about 20 square miles. Where in either of these areas did I mention a particular spot?
Sometimes it isn't worth the effort if you are going to get criticized everytime you post a report.
So, should my next report say something like, "A guy came in my shop today and said he caught some Stripers."
Can I mention what they were caught on?
Ele
Your report did not violate the spot burn rules. And Rodfather ( the moderator) did not edit or delete your post. Just, members commenting on it with their opinions.
Russ
Elrod
03-18-2009, 09:30 PM
You know, I really don't know if I want to post any reports on this website. Last year, I posted some fishing reports and got blasted because I mentioned my son was a fishing guide. That was not allowed because I did not pay to advetise. My first three posts got wiped off the board before I knew what I was doing wrong.
On my first report this year I mention Turkey Point. Well, Turkey Point consists of about 3 miles of shore line where people fish from shore who don't have boats.
I also mentioned the flats. The flats is about 20 square miles. Where in either of these areas did I mention a particular spot?
Sometimes it isn't worth the effort if you are going to get criticized everytime you post a report.dont let few bad eggs keep yoou from posting....I for one appreciate the info.......just werent brought up with
So, should my next report say something like, "A guy came in my shop today and said he caught some Stripers."
Can I mention what they were caught on?
EleI for one appreciate the reports....dont let a few discourage you from posting just put them on ignore
VF Fishhead
03-18-2009, 09:36 PM
I fish the areas you posted about and that wasn't burning, no more than saying i caught fish at sandy hook. keep posting
boostedcpe
03-18-2009, 11:26 PM
Too many internet fishermen/women with there thongs riding up too high:eek::eek:......gets kinda painful, but they usually are the ones to b*$ch about just anything in general.
Keep posting, dont sweat it, post on.:thumbsup:
freaking crybabies.
2dogs
03-19-2009, 08:16 AM
Ele,
You do what you've been doing and don't worry about it. You perform a valuable service by providing up to the hour reports. I would much rather read your report that the water is muddy and the fish have turned off than burn a vacation day to find out. Ken
ZENFOLD
03-19-2009, 08:34 AM
Ele keep posting and don't worry about it. Hopefully I will see you in a few weeks. :thumbsup:
Flyguy784
03-19-2009, 08:41 AM
I also appreciate the reports, just to get a feel for the level of activity down there. It would actualy be hard to take a photo anywhere on the flats that showed any background at all without at least the regulars knowing exactly where you were. I believe the "regulars" have their spots, the places they always try first to find fish, regardless of what photo they saw three days earlier. There's what, 20 spots that always seem to be the hot spots at some time or another. That changes day to day. My secret method is to get on the water, look for where all the boats are, then throttle up and go somewhere else.
Barn is a great site, the moderators do their best to accomodate the many, many personalities on here. It's gotta be a thankless job. Or worse.
Please post your heart out Ele, if it gets bumped, don't let it get under your skin. Just keep posting. They're doing the best they can.
I wish there was as much distain being shown in here for guys that blast all over the entire area at 35 kts with total disregard for their fellow anglers and the fish. My guess would be that they are on their way to the last photo'd "spot", kinda fits the mentality.
Flyguy784
03-19-2009, 08:52 AM
Too many internet fishermen/women with there thongs riding up too high:eek::eek:......gets kinda painful, but they usually are the ones to b*$ch about just anything in general.
Keep posting, dont sweat it, post on.:thumbsup:
freaking crybabies.
And exactly how do you know how painful it is ? :rolleyes: No need to respond, we really don't want to know. Not that there's anything wrong with that. :D
burn baby burn:huh:
Sir you are a PUTZ!...if you had any idea of who Ele was and what a class act she is you would not have wasted bandwidth.
lightman
03-19-2009, 12:34 PM
I second what hub said.
DEEP POCKETS
03-19-2009, 02:51 PM
Ele - keep posting your reports, we all know what area you are referring too:D
Its nice to hear of the updates on the conditions etc and as we all know the conditions change every day on the flats and one day you can have the best day ever and the next day no fish but still a nice day on the water.
Dont mind the nay sayers, they will come out in droves if you start posting pictures of all the big fish Mike put's his clients on.:)
See you soon.
Lynchmob
VF Fishhead
03-19-2009, 06:48 PM
Its nice to hear of the updates on the conditions etc and as we all know the conditions change every day on the flats and one day you can have the best day ever and the next day no fish but still a nice day on the water.
Lynchmob
Not only day to day but hour to hour:huh:, how many times have you left because it was slow only to find out it blew up hours later or heading out and guys are coming in grubling only to go out and spank them.
......keep this a secret....there are stripers in the chesapeake bay and some of them are real big. sorry for burning a spot:razz:
Phil RTB
03-19-2009, 07:18 PM
And please keep posting more. Some of the barners don't understand that is is our job to give out the best information possible because if we can send a customer out to catch a fish we will make a customer for life.
NOW I strongly suggest that if you want to keep information to yourself, keep the information to your self. DO NOT take pictures, Definately do not show them to your local tackle shop, and do not go near the internet.
BTW, I've been wanting to get to Turkey Point for years, it's no secrete and maybe this year I'll get out to say Hi and catch some fish.
Dave if you get down this way drop me an e-mail. Phil 4s
Well, it looks like the majority rules. :p I will continue to post.
Right now, the fishing is slow, with a few Stripers being caught by the guys that have been out, but nothing to really brag about. I have had a few reports from guys fishing from the beach along Red Point and Turkey Point.
The Herring are starting to run a bit but we sell out as fast as we can get them. I really don't think we will have much in the way of Herring for the weekend as there is a cold front coming and that will keep them from running. But, only mother natrues knows for sure. If I hadn't broke my crystal ball last year I could predict whether we would have Herring for this upcoming weekend.
Ele
marlinmatt
03-20-2009, 08:50 AM
i like you ele! keep up the solid reports as they help us all no matter what.. its a catch and release fishery if guys get burned up over burning spots they have issues, its here for all of us to enjoy. there here one minute and gone the next. thanks ele.
Striper In
03-20-2009, 10:30 AM
I second what hub said.
I third what JHub said.....
Ele, You know where you are loved:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Ele, i dont look at it much anymore but I used to look at alot of your reports on a popular website south of NJ. Used to fish the flats alot when it 1st opened with Richie Gaines and then Walleye Pete both great guys and better capts.
The sensitivity on the BB with Spots seems to be mostly a NJ thing. I have been a member on this site since 2001 and its changed a lot. Alot of great fisherman dont report anything especially the guys on foot and thats a shame. The site has become very successful even without great fishing reports and information from folks with a ton of knowledge that choose not to say much. I am one of those people that used to post and dont post so maybe it makes me a hypocrite in some eyes. I typically read the posts and enjoy this site without participating. So i would hope you keep reporting here and the other site as alot of us Northeners like to know whats happening down near the conowingo and the flats as it kinda marks the start of Spring Stripers.
One thing I would love to hear from you is how hard is it to learn the waters down there if you were to trailer a boat from PA to the flats. Whats involved from a license standpoint and whats the best time for artificials and top water in that area?
Keep em comin
lightman
03-20-2009, 03:27 PM
jc (http://www.thebassbarn.com/forum/member.php?u=872)
It depends on what size boat you have. I have a bigger boat so I only fish the edges of the flats. The key I have found is to take it easy. That way you don't spook the fish and if you hit something not as much damage. Also get yourself some CHARTS!
Flyguy784
03-20-2009, 04:11 PM
It's not hard JC. Unless you're trailering a 42 footer you'll be fine. As mentioned, get a chart, you'll quickly see what's going on. Go slow anywhere other than the well marked channels. Let other barners know you're comming down and what day you'll be on the water and if you can't find fish, give a shout out. Somebody will come back to you.
jc, there are new comers to the flats every day. It doesn't take long to learn the area, once you know the different points of land. Get a map and use it. There are only a few places that you really have to worry about and once you find them, you won't forget where they are.
To fish on the flats you need an individual bay license for $15.00 or you can license your boat for $50.00. The boat license covers everyone in your boat for fishing & crabbing and also gives you an individual license for yourself, if you are not on your boat.
As far as artificial lures go, you can use them just about anytime and catch fish, if the water is 43 degrees or better and visibility is more than 1 ft. You fish them slower when the water is this cool.
As the water warms up to about 53 or more, they will hit surface lures. If the water is muddy, you are wasting your time trying to catch them on lures. That is the time for bait. Either cut Herring or Bloodworms. We have found that if the water is real muddy, you won't do too much on live Herring but the cut Herring and BW will work. As the water clears up, the live Herring are deadly.
If you want to learn how to fish the flats, give my son, Capt. Mike a call. He is the most experienced guide that fishes the Susquehanna Flats. He has taken many of the other guides, that now fish the flats, out with him, to show them the ropes. If you have never fished the flats, fishing with a guide the first time is money well invested.
Ele
flats cat
03-20-2009, 04:39 PM
I think Cpt. Mike has forgot more about the flats then most of us will ever know. Helps when your father is Mr. Herb take care and see you soon.:thumbsup:
DEEP POCKETS
03-20-2009, 07:26 PM
jc, there are new comers to the flats every day. It doesn't take long to learn the area, once you know the different points of land. Get a map and use it. There are only a few places that you really have to worry about and once you find them, you won't forget where they are.
To fish on the flats you need an individual bay license for $15.00 or you can license your boat for $50.00. The boat license covers everyone in your boat for fishing & crabbing and also gives you an individual license for yourself, if you are not on your boat.
As far as artificial lures go, you can use them just about anytime and catch fish, if the water is 43 degrees or better and visibility is more than 1 ft. You fish them slower when the water is this cool.
As the water warms up to about 53 or more, they will hit surface lures. If the water is muddy, you are wasting your time trying to catch them on lures. That is the time for bait. Either cut Herring or Bloodworms. We have found that if the water is real muddy, you won't do too much on live Herring but the cut Herring and BW will work. As the water clears up, the live Herring are deadly.
If you want to learn how to fish the flats, give my son, Capt. Mike a call. He is the most experienced guide that fishes the Susquehanna Flats. He has taken many of the other guides, that now fish the flats, out with him, to show them the ropes. If you have never fished the flats, fishing with a guide the first time is money well invested.
Ele
Thats one of the biggest reasons to keep on posting Ele, you always provide honest reports and always always looking to help out your fellow fisherman.
For the new comers, the flats is a real special place, one trip you may have to make 500+ cast and fish for 10 hours to catch one fish, but the next trip you could have the trip of your life.
As Ele pointed out, there are trips when only the best of guides will catch fish and everyone else is trying to figure it out, very frustrating but as Ele pointed out if you have the extra cash hop on a charter, I'm sure you wont be disappointed.
Hope to see you next weekend Ele:)
john2558
03-21-2009, 06:14 AM
I've always read your reports Ele, weather on this site or the "other" one. ;) Keep the reports comming.
Wasteman
03-21-2009, 10:24 AM
Thanks Ele,
i appreciate your information on both here and the other message boards. Letting people know there are fish caught, size and general local is very helpful. For those who never fish this area Turkey Point is one of a handful of "markers" that are boundaries where you can fish. Much like saying I caught fish off of Townsends Inlet. If that is spot burning please sign me up!
Thanks again your help and insight to the local conditions is appreciated.
John
lightman
03-21-2009, 11:13 AM
If you are out in a boat make sure you are in the c&r area because they will be watching. Turkey point is the cut off over to sandy point . Click link for more info.
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries/regulations/sbrecseasons/sbregmap02.html
johnrogers
03-21-2009, 10:01 PM
Damn I thought I was only one to know about that spot, there goes that:D
Some fish are here, on wed. we had 7 to28" in two hours and yesterday I got a 17# up in the susky by lapidum boat ramp in 17' of water in the first ten minutes then 5 minutes later pull the hook on another. I'm like this is great were going to tear them up. 4 hours laters nothing but catfish:eek: All caught on fresh herring from HERBS Tackle shop. I am sure I will see you some time this week Ele. Keep the reports coming.
capt. ed
03-22-2009, 09:21 AM
Hey this the Chesapeake Board! We don't have the great spot burning debate in Maryland, but our "spots" are general locations. The Jersey guys will often mention general locations like the 60, Tussys, Overfalls, etc., what Ele posted was no different than that.
Thanks for the update Ele. I've been away and it's nice to know what's happening.
last drift
03-22-2009, 11:54 AM
hi eleanore , i second what capt. ed said your family runs a 1st. class operation always . never ever try to burn a location or spot . you could never fish the entire flats , keep up the great information and tips you are always no. 1 on the tidal fish board always !!!!!!!!!! thanks and keep posting lastdrift:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Ron Redington
03-22-2009, 07:17 PM
burn baby burn:huh:
I realize I'm too later here :rolleyes: But anyway...Bobabouy, please DO NOT disrupt fishing reports with comments like this. It does none of us any good. All it does is stir the hornets (as witnessed here). It's also not fair to the person taking the time to provide us with the report. On top of all that, it discourages others from posting reports. Think about what this place would be like without reports :(
If you (or anyone else for that matter) feel as though someone has violated our "No Spot Burning" rule, simply report the post by clicking the "Report Post" icon. This way myself and the appropriate moderator(s) will be alerted. We'll take it from there :)
Flyguy784
03-23-2009, 05:53 PM
Geeez Ron, looks like ya single handedly shut the thread down. Many on here appreciate the availability of the site. Thanks for all your hard work.
Flyguy784
03-23-2009, 05:55 PM
Heard about some guys gettin some up to 20 lb on bait, anybody have an idea of what the water temp is ?
danfaust
03-23-2009, 08:08 PM
Where is the best place to launch a small aluminum boat to fish the flats. I live in Pa, only 40 minutes from Northeast, Md.:confused:
Shellback CVA59
03-23-2009, 08:28 PM
Where is the best place to launch a small aluminum boat to fish the flats. I live in Pa, only 40 minutes from Northeast, Md.:confused:
Probably the free launch at Charlestown if you are fishing the flats, or Port Deposit if you you fishing the river. Stop by Herb's for some tackle and the latest info. They can give you some directions to either.
Sea Devil
03-23-2009, 09:34 PM
port deposit i belive runs 5 or 10 bucks and its about a mile to the flats
you can get to them quicker from the havre de grace ramps in havre de grace both i belive are 5 bucks
the fist ramp is by the amtrak line the other is at the end of union i belive
Map of Havre De Grace, MD by MapQuest (http://www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Havre+De+Grace&state=MD&country=US&latitude=39.549198&longitude=-76.091904&geocode=CITY)th
danfaust,if it is a boat you can carry, you can launch it at the Perryville Town Park. Otherwise you will have to use a paying ramp. Perryville town ramp is close but you have to get a permit from the town. Otherwise, Havre de Grace would be the closest to the flats.
Ele
Ron Redington
03-24-2009, 07:19 AM
Geeez Ron, looks like ya single handedly shut the thread down. Many on here appreciate the availability of the site. Thanks for all your hard work.
Just figured I'd remind people that disrupting fishing reports is a :naughty:
Didn't mean to shut things down :huh:
Now ya got me feeling like the nitwit with the big-fast boat flying across the flats shutting down the bite :( ;)
Seriously John...
You're very welcome! Making this site available to everyone is my pleasure. But the truth is, it's our members, advertisers and moderators who we really have to thank. Without member contributions (fishing reports, etc), someone to pay the bills, and folks willing to volunteer their time, none of this would be possible :)
Flyguy784
03-24-2009, 07:28 AM
See ya on the flats Ron. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Flyguy784
03-24-2009, 07:33 AM
Danfaust, I always use the ramp at Havre de Grace. Don't forget your MD license. Make sure you know where the C&R boundries are and stay within them, the man does watch. It won't be long now.
Heard about some guys gettin some up to 20 lb on bait, anybody have an idea of what the water temp is ?
On Sunday there were a few spots on west side that hit 47F.
But mostly in low 40's
Russ
DEEP POCKETS
03-24-2009, 01:33 PM
danfaust - just remember theres a toll to tow your boat across the Rt 40 or 95 bridge, so your best bet would be to launch on the north side of the river, unless you go across the Conowingo dam that is. Good luck & keep an eye out on the forecast, the flats can get nasty if the winds pick up and you are down the southern end.
Flyguy784
03-24-2009, 03:36 PM
On Sunday there were a few spots on west side that hit 47F.
But mostly in low 40's
Russ
Thanks Russ.
fishrus
03-24-2009, 09:51 PM
what gives with some of you guys first i see you blast some of my best freinds for doing what we all are suposed to love,you know FISHING. and now i look at this column and you badger ele about spot burning.are you kidding me. this lady and her family have made a home and a living on these waters.they are some o the nicest people you will ever meet,an you who posted it have absolutely no idea of what waters i speak of if you think turkey point and the flats are spot burning... GET REAL........
Flyguy784
03-25-2009, 06:44 AM
what gives with some of you guys first i see you blast some of my best freinds for doing what we all are suposed to love,you know FISHING. and now i look at this column and you badger ele about spot burning.are you kidding me. this lady and her family have made a home and a living on these waters.they are some o the nicest people you will ever meet,an you who posted it have absolutely no idea of what waters i speak of if you think turkey point and the flats are spot burning... GET REAL........
Let it go fishrus, everyone has moved on. I think we're all tired of the whole spot burning thing. We all need a little pullage, it's been a long winter.
Reel-ality
03-26-2009, 08:56 AM
On Monday we had a high of 46 just north of Turkey Point in the channel.
Keyman
03-26-2009, 12:16 PM
How busy are the ramps at Turkey Point State Park? Checked them out late summer last year and they seem to nice with plently of parking. We have a 17ft CC Mako so I don't thimk we have any low water issues when launching.
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