Coast Guard boarding outside state waters

[dorado]

A friend of mine was boarding by the Coast Guard yesterday and had a striped bass confiscated. Long story short, they started their day inshore snag'n and drag'n bunker. They caught a legal sized striped bass and put it in the cooler. Once the bass action slowed thet decided to run to a reef outside the 3 mile state limit. While sea bass fishing they were boarded by the Coasties and had the striped bass confiscated. Posting this message as a reminder to striped bass fisherman regarding the regs. P.S. This happened to a boat from Shark River Inlet, not sure where the Coasties came from, SR or Manasquan.

[fatboy]

Coasties are Federal. The State Police will not be past three miles. In any case you cant posess Bass past the three mile line. Sucks but those are the regs, did he get fined? Thanks for the heads up. I am sure this happens more than people would think.

[njbasspro88]

That is a shame, but hopefully they went home w/ some seabass!

[sbbtmatt]

FYI the State Police have to play by the same rules as the highway guys do they cannot just bored your boat they need probable cause first. The Coasties and fish and game do not they can bored to check you the state cannot.

[avasea]

That is a shame, and a little ridiculous. The Coast Guard has more important duties than nonsense like that. I don't care what the regulations say, this kind of stuff is way out of hand.

[i bd fossil]

I find it hard to believe the CG just picked out your friend to check for no reason. Do not see the Guard wasting time and money for nothing. What did he do to call attention to his craft? They may have only taken the fish and let him slide on a much bigger violation.

[billythekid]

It is true, the coast guard was out in and boarding boats from sea bright south. The coast guard boat had the fish and game on board and were checking every boat on the shrewsbury rocks a couple days ago. It just like in ocean city NJ where they were getting boats fishing the 5 fathom bank. 8 miles off the beach

[avasea]

I find it hard to believe the CG just picked out your friend to check for no reason.

I have been boarded for no reason other than to do a complete check. In other words, they were randomly boarding boats that day checking registrations, safety equipment, etc. And I have no problem with that.

I have been through DWI checkpoints on the road. To assume that I, or the other drivers that went that way, were questioned because we must have been doing something wrong is not really logical.

I am going to assume the above story was told exactly as it happened. Presumption of innocence is one of the foundations of the freedom that we enjoy in the US. Regulations and laws that make it increasingly harder to stay within the law do nothing to make fishing better, nor do they keep poachers from poaching.

There are all kinds of blatantly illegal activities taking place in the ocean, many within a stones throw from the beach. The coast guard is nowhere to be found. Some guy catches a bass then heads out 4 miles to catch some panfish and he get's his balls busted. That's just great. I am sure that we are all safer because of it. Fish stocks have now dramatically improved.

[ms3820]

"FYI the State Police have to play by the same rules as the highway guys do they cannot just bored your boat they need probable cause first. The Coasties and fish and game do not they can bored to check you the state cannot. " New Jersey State Police can enforce fish and game laws - So they can board and look for illegal game don't spread false information.

[striper2278]

I find it hard to believe the CG just picked out your friend to check for no reason. Do not see the Guard wasting time and money for nothing. What did he do to call attention to his craft? They may have only taken the fish and let him slide on a much bigger violation.
I see it all the time here. They do it alot for training!

[NEED2FISH]

What is the deal on the Doris May when they say in there report(Bluefish) that a Striper won the pool?I know they are fishing more than 3 miles out.:confused:

[Fillet1]

Is the reg that you cannot "possess" a striped bass outside 3 miles? Or if you are found with one beyond three miles they presume you caught it out there?

My plans usually involve an early am troll or run up the beach looking for life/bunker pods, then out to a reef to put some seabass in the boat. So far the first part of the plan has not panned out :D so I have had no problems.

I was anticipating photographing any fish caught showing the beach in the background so any CG would know where it was caught. Doesnt sound like that will work eh?

[barrell]

Is the reg that you cannot "possess" a striped bass outside 3 miles? Or if you are found with one beyond three miles they presume you caught it out there?

My plans usually involve an early am troll or run up the beach looking for life/bunker pods, then out to a reef to put some seabass in the boat. So far the first part of the plan has not panned out :D so I have had no problems.

I was anticipating photographing any fish caught showing the beach in the background so any CG would know where it was caught. Doesnt sound like that will work eh?

You cant even attempt to catch or target, or possess a styripoer beyond three miles.

[JoeyZac]

If you catch a striper in the inlet or right off the beach early am, you are NOT allowed to keep it in your cooler (possession) if you then go offshore looking for some Sea Bass/Tog/Fluke on a wreck or reef.

Intent to fish, possession, C&R, it's ALL illegal outside the 3 mile line.

[Basstardo]

This does not surpise me. Different scenario, but when I am in the City during the week, I fish te Delaware river mainly for shits and giggles but have noticed something. From shore, its a f _ in circus. I am the only guy fishing legally, with a license and returning shorts back unharmed. I saw a group of people today cathcing and keeping 10 inch stripers, cutting the heads off and using them for bait. Fish and game came by two weeks ago, and looked right as us. Two others and me. I am the only one on the shore with a license, I turn my cap around to let them know I am legal. They look at me give me the thumbs up and shove off. I am not a rat but why am I paying 20 something bucks a year and putting back fish that are 27.5 on the nose. I know that answer.. because I follow the f--in laws. I just think it is rediculous. I feel for the guys this happened to. The fish and game, etc are never where they should be.

I was fishing in pennypack 10 years ago without a salmon stamp on the license. I got busted by the fish and game. Costs me 100 bucks. guess what? Never went out again without that damn stamp. Maybe if they cited a few of the a-holes without licenses, they would make a few more bucks and keep some small fish alive for our kids to catch.

[Re-Bait]

I once had a CG board me in the mid 90's and search my boat for half an hour. He was looking for fish in secret compartments. I was laughing at the guy by the end, after all I told him I had no fish, and showed him a bent 4x strength bucktail...all that was left of my close striper encounter.

Have been boarded at sea of of Miami a dozen times, and they hold you at the point of a shot gun barrell. Soooo anything they do up here is kid glove treatment. I salute them for their efforts at their very hard taks.....

[JoePhotographer]

How about taking a picture of the striper with your GPS in the photo, showing the cordinates where you caught it. That's gotta be better than any beach in background.

[dorado]

It was a Coasties boat but with a NMFS agent on board. After they took the fish, they took the captains info and said they might issue him with a fine. I haven't heard if if they did.

[gaff um]

And you have no problems......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[aj bruno]

You cant even attempt to catch or target, or possess a styripoer beyond three miles.

I was talking to a CO the other day... he said unless you have a bass on board there is not much they can do. I said even if you are fishing with eels... he said yes.....

[JoeyZac]

I was talking to a CO the other day... he said unless you have a bass on board there is not much they can do. I said even if you are fishing with eels... he said yes.....

When I have company on board, I always drift an eel off the back of the boat when we are out on ocean. Doesn't matter if we're drifting for Fluke or anchored over a wreck.

Big blues and sharks LOVE eels, and I love to give my guests a chance to catch something big. (Big to them)

[dorado]

Well my friend got a call from the NMFS, they decided not to give him a fine. They also said he could have his fish back. He said no thanks.

[avasea]

Well my friend got a call from the NMFS, they decided not to give him a fine. They also said he could have his fish back. He said no thanks.

Well, sounds to me like someone's boss had a dose of common sense.

[barrell]

I was talking to a CO the other day... he said unless you have a bass on board there is not much they can do. I said even if you are fishing with eels... he said yes.....
Of course they cant do anything as anyone could just lie and say they were targeting something other then bass. But the law reads you cant target them in federal waters.

[barrell]

This does not surpise me. Different scenario, but when I am in the City during the week, I fish te Delaware river mainly for shits and giggles but have noticed something. From shore, its a f _ in circus. I am the only guy fishing legally, with a license and returning shorts back unharmed. I saw a group of people today cathcing and keeping 10 inch stripers, cutting the heads off and using them for bait. Fish and game came by two weeks ago, and looked right as us. Two others and me. I am the only one on the shore with a license, I turn my cap around to let them know I am legal. They look at me give me the thumbs up and shove off. I am not a rat but why am I paying 20 something bucks a year and putting back fish that are 27.5 on the nose. I know that answer.. because I follow the f--in laws. I just think it is rediculous. I feel for the guys this happened to. The fish and game, etc are never where they should be.

I was fishing in pennypack 10 years ago without a salmon stamp on the license. I got busted by the fish and game. Costs me 100 bucks. guess what? Never went out again without that damn stamp. Maybe if they cited a few of the a-holes without licenses, they would make a few more bucks and keep some small fish alive for our kids to catch.
If you feel that strongly about it then why do you consider yourself a rat if you call and report violations. Poachers are stealing from YOU and your children. I call the CO's every other day when I see something. They apreciate it because they depend on info to seperate the poachers from the honest guys.

[aimless]

Lots of guys complain about being boarded and say "Don't they have something better to do?" Then when they see someone breaking the law they say "Where is the law when we need them." When they are out boarding people I'm sure they are protectiing some of them from their own idiocy, AND they are closer to potential problems than if they are tied up to the dock.

[mattlist]

Well my friend got a call from the NMFS, they decided not to give him a fine. They also said he could have his fish back. He said no thanks.

Glad to see the law still means nothing in NJ. I was starting to worry.

[BILLO]

I posted something to this effect a year ago and got blasted from a few barners that I should look up the regs......IF you fish for stripers legally (within 3 miles) and have a striper on board(assume legal size please) you CAN NOT go past 3 miles and fish for any species-regardless. The post I refer to is that NO one can prove where that striper in your cooler was caught at - inside 3 miles or out. The same goes if you fish past 3 miles for ANY other species besides stripers AND then later in the day you decide to fish for stripers within 3 miles - There is no way to prove that you didn't catch any stripers past 3 miles out,,but this is when you are spotted by law enforcement coming back in from past 3 miles out--rare -but techninally correct.
Bottom line is - If you go striper fishing stay within 3 miles. These combo trips that I hear about (sea bass then stripers) are technically illegal - But the law tends to look the other way when it comes to charters or headboats(not sure if there is a leeway for these guys-sort of the same rule as being able to clean fish at sea.)
There is NO law against using Eels - regardless where you are,But,then again, If its striper season the odds are that you will be checked for stripers if you are past 3 miles out or you were spotted coming back in from 3 miles out if your spotted using eels.

[MakeMeNuts]

I guess you call the cops when someone is driving five miles over the speed limit?

please put a bit of perspective on these concerns

[JoeyZac]

.............These combo trips that I hear about (sea bass then stripers) are technically illegal - But the law tends to look the other way when it comes to charters or headboats(not sure if there is a leeway for these guys-sort of the same rule as being able to clean fish at sea.)............

Not sure I agree with that.

Combo trip - am you head 10 miles out for Sea Bass, on the way back in you spend some time in the inlet looking for some Stripers.

Nothing illegal there that I can see.

Now, that same trip in reverse (stripers first, sea bass) - everyone sees the flaw there.

[Darrin G. DGREENEMACHINE]

Not sure I agree with that.

Combo trip - am you head 10 miles out for Sea Bass, on the way back in you spend some time in the inlet looking for some Stripers.

Nothing illegal there that I can see.

Now, that same trip in reverse (stripers first, sea bass) - everyone sees the flaw there.

nothing illegal about stripers first as long as you go back to the dock and drop the catch or you release all the fish.

we've been through this 18 million times.

there's no way, even if I'm cathing and releasing stripers 14 miles off that the man can say I'm deliberately targeting them... all the same techniques and lures are used for blue fish and they are certainly in the area at the same time.

simple, we are blue fishing... you aren't going to leave an area and run 10 miles every time a by-catch striper is hooked, you're going to release it immediately, preferably without bringing the fish on board

get caught with a fish in the cooler gt 3 miles off though, and you're dead meat in the eyes of any judge no matter where you caught the fish

[JoeyZac]

I'm working off the assumption that the charter would want to keep their fish and not do a "catch and release".

[BILLO]

nothing illegal about stripers first as long as you go back to the dock and drop the catch or you release all the fish.

we've been through this 18 million times.

there's no way, even if I'm cathing and releasing stripers 14 miles off that the man can say I'm deliberately targeting them... all the same techniques and lures are used for blue fish and they are certainly in the area at the same time.

simple, we are blue fishing... you aren't going to leave an area and run 10 miles every time a by-catch striper is hooked, you're going to release it immediately, preferably without bringing the fish on board

get caught with a fish in the cooler gt 3 miles off though, and you're dead meat in the eyes of any judge no matter where you caught the fish

THERE is No Way that you can prove that you caught a striper within 3 miles - either before or after you go beyond 3 miles. Period. Thats what I am saying. Lets say your spotted coming in from beyond 3 miles offshore and you start catching stripers within 3 miles. The law dude who observed
you coming in from 3 miles off-shore decides to board you and finds a striper you just caught 5 minutes ago in a cooler full of Sea Bass.He then asks you where you caught that striper and you say I just caught it 5 minutes ago and he says 'I spotted your vessel coming in from over 3 miles off-shore and i see you are in possession of a striper'. Are you saying that that he is going to just take your word and assume that you caught that striper within 3 miles? THEY wont and they CANT -- you crossed that line and your in possession of a striper - ILLEGAL period.

[JoeyZac]

THERE is No Way that you can prove that you caught a striper within 3 miles - either before or after you go beyond 3 miles. Period. Thats what I am saying. Lets say your spotted coming in from beyond 3 miles offshore and you start catching stripers within 3 miles. The law dude who observed
you coming in from 3 miles off-shore decides to board you and finds a striper you just caught 5 minutes ago in a cooler full of Sea Bass.He then asks you where you caught that striper and you say I just caught it 5 minutes ago and he says 'I spotted your vessel coming in from over 3 miles off-shore and i see you are in possession of a striper'. Are you saying that that he is going to just take your word and assume that you caught that striper within 3 miles? THEY wont and they CANT -- you crossed that line and your in possession of a striper - ILLEGAL period.

I think that is complete BS - no offense meant to you.

If he boards you in state waters, then how can he charge you with possession in FED waters.

Sorry, I don't buy that one. :naughty:

[DJ COAST]

That is a shame, and a little ridiculous. The Coast Guard has more important duties than nonsense like that. I don't care what the regulations say, this kind of stuff is way out of hand.

The CG doesn't waste time. Also please explain how routinely boarding vessels is not important. How do you think we find drugs, illegal immigrants, BWI's, saftey violations, ect? We find them exactly how we found that striper. I am sure this boat somehow drew attention, it might of been something as simple as not answering them on the radio. I can't tell you how many idiots don't monitor CH 16, which is a violation. The CG will hail vessles on CH 16, vessel doesn't answer, now we have to board them.

I think its ridiculous that you think its ridiculous that we are protecting our ever so loved striper. Do you realize this has been the best year in over 25 years for catching cows. More regualtions than ever have been instilled that were not in place since the last run of cows like this in the early 80's. Also more people are practicing catch and release than ever as well. What this means for us is many more generations will be able to enjoy our love and passion for the ever so awesome striper. You should be thanking the Coast Guard.

[DJ COAST]

And you have no problems......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly.

BTW, your boat is sweet. What kind is it?

[Gary E]

I can't tell you how many idiots don't monitor CH 16, which is a violation.

Can you cite the regulation chapter and verse ??

Since when is it LAW that I must listen to a radio?.. ok if you want to, but LAW???
In my opinion it's MY radio, and I'l listen to it when I want to, it's there for MY use, not yours, same as my phone, I'l answer it if I want to.

[aimless]

DJ, You're 100% right.

[schmidtty140]

Thats one helluva shame :mad: I have great respect for the Coasties but all that work for conservation they go and take a BASS... Better yet I bet the Coasties made a fine meal of that.:thumbsdown:

[Team Dougherty]

Can you cite the regulation chapter and verse ??

Since when is it LAW that I must listen to a radio?.. ok if you want to, but LAW???
In my opinion it's MY radio, and I'l listen to it when I want to, it's there for MY use, not yours, same as my phone, I'l answer it if I want to.

Source: FCC 47 CFR §§ 80.148, 80.310, NTIA Manual 8.2.29.6.c(2)(e), ITU RR 31.17, 33.18, AP13 §25.2


http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/watch.htm

[JoeyZac]

So if there is a VHF on your boat (even though they are NOT required for recs), unless you are involved in a conversation, your radio MUST be on channel 16 (monitoring?) or you are in violation of the law?

Am I reading that paragraph correctly?

[Gary E]

Ok... so the rule is there, but this use of "In general" really bugs me..


Radio Watchkeeping Regulations

In general, any vessel equipped with a VHF marine radiotelephone (whether voluntarily or required to) must maintain a watch on channel 16 (156.800 MHz) whenever the radiotelephone is not being used to communicate.

Source: FCC 47 CFR §§ 80.148, 80.310, NTIA Manual 8.2.29.6.c(2)(e), ITU RR 31.17, 33.18, AP13 §25.2


But it's STILL MY RADIO... and I forgit to turn things on a lot...
And this also represents "BIG BROTHER" getting into my life where and when they have no damn biz doing so.

Since you no longer need a LICENSE to operate a radio, how they gona know who you are? Whats the fine?... or do they take you straight to jail??

[Team Dougherty]

How would you feel if a boat 1/4 mile away from you did not have his radio on, and the next closest boat, with his radio on, was 5 miles away and you were sinking calling mayday on Channel 16 and he, the boat 1/4 mile away, could not hear you?

[Gary E]

How would you feel if a boat 1/4 mile away from you did not have his radio on, and the next closest boat, with his radio on, was 5 miles away and you were sinking calling mayday on Channel 16 and he, the boat 1/4 mile away, could not hear you?

Your assumiong that anyone out there will have a Radio Direction Finder and know how to use it... Remember, MOST do not have all the fancy dancy high priced electronic gizmoes that some of you guys have.

Yeah... that would fall into the catagory of ...Shit Happens...

Say.... Team Dougherty...are you a one man team?.. or maybe part and parcel of the gang that has been invading our lives with more and more rules and regulations for so many years ??? One of these days I can only hope someone will start a movement to throw these bums that make all the rules out... maybe take them shark fishing some day... and use them as chum.

[Team Dougherty]

Say.... Team Dougherty...are you a one man team?.. or maybe part and parcel of the gang that has been invading our lives with more and more rules and regulations for so many years ??? One of these days I can only hope someone will start a movement to throw these bums that make all the rules out... maybe take them shark fishing some day... and use them as chum.


Nope, I am not for more regulations, believe me. This is one on the books already. One may not agree with it but it is the law none the less. Write your law makers.

[DJ COAST]

Thats one helluva shame :mad: I have great respect for the Coasties but all that work for conservation they go and take a BASS... Better yet I bet the Coasties made a fine meal of that.:thumbsdown:

Regs are in place for a reason. Your ignorant statement makes no sense. Rules are rules, if they let him go what kind of professionalism what that show on the Coasties behalf. Do you know how many guys actually go over the line on purpose to catch bass. Think about it Scmidtty???:huh:...

[DJ COAST]

Ok... so the rule is there, but this use of "In general" really bugs me..



But it's STILL MY RADIO... and I forgit to turn things on a lot...
And this also represents "BIG BROTHER" getting into my life where and when they have no damn biz doing so.

Since you no longer need a LICENSE to operate a radio, how they gona know who you are? Whats the fine?... or do they take you straight to jail??


Its proper boating etiquette to monitor CH 16. I hope if I have a problem there is some one close enough to help out.


Vessels not required to carry a marine radio (e.g. recreational vessels less than 20m length), but which voluntarily carry a radio, (whcih means pretty much everyone) must maintain a watch on channel 16 whenever the radio is operating and not being used to communicate.

[DJ COAST]

Your assumiong that anyone out there will have a Radio Direction Finder and know how to use it... Remember, MOST do not have all the fancy dancy high priced electronic gizmoes that some of you guys have.

Yeah... that would fall into the catagory of ...Shit Happens...

Say.... Team Dougherty...are you a one man team?.. or maybe part and parcel of the gang that has been invading our lives with more and more rules and regulations for so many years ??? One of these days I can only hope someone will start a movement to throw these bums that make all the rules out... maybe take them shark fishing some day... and use them as chum.

Not really sure what your point is with the direction finder statement Some one might be a few miles away from you in fog, DIW, in trouble, whatever, they simply give you a lat and long or a range and bearing from a point of land and in a few minutes you are there to help out...well you wouldn't be there, but most boaters would be there and glad to help. We are supposed to watch for each other out there. In some areas (like Alaska) they consider other fisherman out there on the water a part of a brotherhood, and if one of their brothers is in trouble, some one will be there to help. This is often before the CG shows up as we can't be everywhere.

Its scary knowing people like you are out on the water...:thumbsdown:...WOW...I guess following NAV rules are an option for you as well...:huh:...

[Gary E]

Not really sure what your point is with the direction finder statement Some one might be a few miles away from you in fog, DIW, in trouble, whatever, they simply give you a lat and long or a range and bearing from a point of land and in a few minutes you are there to help out...well you wouldn't be there, but most boaters would be there and glad to help. We are supposed to watch for each other out there. In some areas (like Alaska) they consider other fisherman out there on the water a part of a brotherhood, and if one of their brothers is in trouble, some one will be there to help. This is often before the CG shows up as we can't be everywhere.

Its scary knowing people like you are out on the water...:thumbsdown:...WOW...I guess following NAV rules are an option for you as well...:huh:...

My point about the direction finder comment is that MOST do not have one and therefore will have NO FRIKKIN IDEA WHERE YOU ARE...specially in a fog... ohh... and the just give lat and long numbers??? Yeah right, MOST DONT HAVE THAT FANCY SCHMANCY DODAD either....

Now, put yourself in a boat with only a compass and a radio... then tell me where YOU are... You want to make it mandatory that everyone have and sucessfully use all the new instruments available? what are you a retail seller of that stuff?

And as far as helping others while "out there" ??? I've done a lot of that, you have no idea and I'm not going into details...

The ONLY thing I'm saying here is that It's MY RADIO... and I'll turn it on when I WANT TO.... (I spose you're one of them guys that listens to and contribute to the incesent babble all the time, hey, it's a free country, listen and yap all you want) And just for your information, it's that constant babble that caused me to just turn the dam thing OFF. Some of you guys are worse than a bunch of CB radio truckers.

[GoNavy]

"The Coast Guard has more important duties than nonsense like that"

Maybe in Alaska or the guys working the NY Harbor area, but I can't imagine that the Puddle-Pirates have much to do in the majority of NJ.


:D


With respect to all the radio/no-radio traffic stuff. I think you should have a radio, but if you are a recreational boat I don't see why it's a big deal. We carry one for safety, but rarely turn it on if we are alone. Most people don't. We do check that it works, but as we don't have any friends in other boats - we don't want to listen to the chatter. If we have an emergency we have it and we have Flares.

If that's a violation - ehh... Everything is a violation now-a-days.

[Darrin G. DGREENEMACHINE]

My point about the direction finder comment is that MOST do not have one and therefore will have NO FRIKKIN IDEA WHERE YOU ARE...specially in a fog... ohh... and the just give lat and long numbers??? Yeah right, MOST DONT HAVE THAT FANCY SCHMANCY DODAD either....

Now, put yourself in a boat with only a compass and a radio... then tell me where YOU are... You want to make it mandatory that everyone have and sucessfully use all the new instruments available? what are you a retail seller of that stuff?

And as far as helping others while "out there" ??? I've done a lot of that, you have no idea and I'm not going into details...

The ONLY thing I'm saying here is that It's MY RADIO... and I'll turn it on when I WANT TO.... (I spose you're one of them guys that listens to and contribute to the incesent babble all the time, hey, it's a free country, listen and yap all you want) And just for your information, it's that constant babble that caused me to just turn the dam thing OFF. Some of you guys are worse than a bunch of CB radio truckers.

I don't think I've seen anyone be this much of a douche on here in AGES.

I'll bet you turn that radio on and get right on 16 to call for help, then hope to Christ your fellow boaters run to the rescue...

But you can't monitor and help someone else.

:thumbsdown:

You suck

BTW, if you actually follow the rules you'll find out that there are so few people who actually DO use 16 for hailing that if you monitor it, it's very quiet sans whatever the coasties are announcing that day.

[mako6950]

Some of the comments and attitudes of people never cease to amaze me. Just what we need on the water, more self-centered, ignorant ppl.

Good job Gary E, you win the ahole of the year award. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Darrin G. DGREENEMACHINE]

Some of the comments and attitudes of people never cease to amaze me. Just what we need on the water, more self-centered, ignorant ppl.

Good job Gary E, you win the ahole of the year award. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

:rolleyes::rolleyes:


Don't pull the trigger too quick Tom, 6 mos to go LOL...

I hate when people report me :(

:wave:

[Gary E]

Well... BOTH of you guys are idiots and conformists socialist wanabees are tied for MORON's of the month.

[Darrin G. DGREENEMACHINE]

Well... BOTH of you guys are idiots and conformists socialist wanabees are tied for MORON's of the month.

Maybe you should look up a few of my posts before you call me a liberal :huh:

[Gary E]

Maybe you should look up a few of my posts before you call me a liberal :huh:
First you should learn how to READ...where is the word liberal mentioned by me?
I called you "conformists socialist wanabees "...

GoNavy said it with much better style, but he said the same thing I did...
With respect to all the radio/no-radio traffic stuff. I think you should have a radio, but if you are a recreational boat I don't see why it's a big deal. We carry one for safety, but rarely turn it on if we are alone. Most people don't. We do check that it works, but as we don't have any friends in other boats - we don't want to listen to the chatter. If we have an emergency we have it and we have Flares.

If that's a violation - ehh... Everything is a violation now-a-days.

[Darrin G. DGREENEMACHINE]

[quote=Gary E;1967689]First you should learn how to READ...where is the word liberal mentioned by me?
I called you "conformists socialist wanabees "...
[quote]

Oh sorry, I didn't realize there was a difference. :huh: :wave: :razz:

[Gary E]

[quote=Gary E;1967689]First you should learn how to READ...where is the word liberal mentioned by me?
I called you "conformists socialist wanabees "...
[quote]

Oh sorry, I didn't realize there was a difference. :huh: :wave: :razz:

So there is somthing else you dont know. :)

[Darrin G. DGREENEMACHINE]

[quote=Darrin G. DGREENEMACHINE;1967705][quote=Gary E;1967689]First you should learn how to READ...where is the word liberal mentioned by me?
I called you "conformists socialist wanabees "...


So there is somthing else you dont know. :)

yes, I don't know how anyone gets on a boat with a radio and doesn't listen up for safety information and or distress calls from fellow boaters on ch 16.

It's called common sense and courtesy. that I DO know. :thumbsup:

[Esox1]

i guess that is why the slow no wake bouys did not go out in the backbays this year, they are spending their time in the ocean:nuts:

[mako6950]

Well... BOTH of you guys are idiots and conformists socialist wanabees are tied for MORON's of the month.

Thank you for putting me in Darren's company. I'd rather be in his company than yours. He monitors Channel 16.

;);)

[Darrin G. DGREENEMACHINE]

Thank you for putting me in Darren's company. I'd rather be in his company than yours. He monitors Channel 16.

;);)

LOL we've been morons together a few times in the last 8 years LOL

[fishbox]

[quote=Gary E;1967191]Remember, MOST do not have all the fancy dancy high priced electronic gizmoes that some of you guys have.

Its called a GPS, and if you have enough money for a boat, you should have enough money for one of them, even a handheld that I think you can probably get for $100 bucks these days.

Then again, I can see your point entering a lattitude and longitude number while also trying to remember to breath at the same time is probably is a major challenge for you.

[GoNavy]

Probably should close this down.

Guy wrote about a fairly benign topic - watch out for and remember the 3 mile rule...

[MAKO19]

The coasties are boarding people all day long behind Sea Isle. Just going from boat to boat and checking for all safety gear and what not. Don't get me wrong I appreciate everything the coasties do and I also agree that everyone should have the proper gear and it should all be in 100% tip top shape but all this boarding is getting out of control and more like harassment at this point. At least if you do get boarded you get a pass and can use it the next time they approach you but come on guys this is getting a little out of control. Looks like the Avalon marine police have been doing the same thing. Just waiting at the TI bridge and hitting up every boat that comes through.

[BILLO]

The coasties are boarding people all day long behind Sea Isle. Just going from boat to boat and checking for all safety gear and what not. Don't get me wrong I appreciate everything the coasties do and I also agree that everyone should have the proper gear and it should all be in 100% tip top shape but all this boarding is getting out of control and more like harassment at this point. At least if you do get boarded you get a pass and can use it the next time they approach you but come on guys this is getting a little out of control. Looks like the Avalon marine police have been doing the same thing. Just waiting at the TI bridge and hitting up every boat that comes through.

Bet most of the boardings are really an excuse to check for alcohol breath. With all the DUI boaters out there in July and August you can't blame them. look at all the fatalities the last few years.Let them board any time they want-the guy they get off the water could have been the DRUNK that would have Effed you up on the water !