A rumor I heard today...bad news for the D.Bay

[hipkvw]

I HEARD from a good source that the D.Bay WILL have a CLOSED SEASON in Spring(possibly 2005) and that the Delware River below Salem will also be closed as is the river above Salem. He also said the EEZ will be open but the season will be limited as it is in many southern states for ocean fishing??? This person also said that POSSIBLY people fishing in the river for stripers WOULD be discouraged(whatever the heck that means) from doing so. He mentioned DOD may see some ACTION(whatever that means) THIS spring. This is from someone high up in Fish and Game. I dont know if he is hearing rumors and blowing it out of proportion or if he was blowing smoke up my butt. Anybody know anything??? Dont shoot the messinger :eek:

[hipkvw]

This rant started when I asked about the 2 fish over 28" limit.

[on the hook]

HEY HIP, YOU TRYING TOO START TROUBLE!!!! :D :D :D :D That happens, I'm gonna sell my boat and get some new clubs!

[hipkvw]

Nah. Just trying to find out if this is possibly been talked about. I only heard it from one person but who he is has me wondering.

[MISTYLADY2]

Originally posted by hipkvw:
I HEARD from a good source that the D.Bay WILL have a CLOSED SEASON in Spring(possibly 2005) and that the Delware River below Salem will also be closed as is the river above Salem. He also said the EEZ will be open but the season will be limited as it is in many southern states for ocean fishing??? This person also said that POSSIBLY people fishing in the river for stripers WOULD be discouraged(whatever the heck that means) from doing so. He mentioned DOD may see some ACTION(whatever that means) THIS spring. This is from someone high up in Fish and Game. I dont know if he is hearing rumors and blowing it out of proportion or if he was blowing smoke up my butt. Anybody know anything??? Dont shoot the messinger :eek: THEIR IS ALSO A RUMOR THAT IN ORDER TO GET A BONUS CARD YOU WILL HAVE TO PURCHASE A STAMP. THIS MONEY WILL GO TO HIRE MORE CONSERVATION OFFICERS AND BIOLOGIST. I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA SINCE THAT SOME INDIVUALS DONT KNOW HOW TO RELEASE. AND OTHERS JUST BREAK THE RULES AND KEEP EVERYTHING OVER THE LIMIT.

MISTYLADY

[on the hook]

Posted a while back on a similiar thread. I would like 2 fish up to 33-36in. Keep the slot or not. Doesn't matter to me. You get ONE trophy tag per YEAR. To be used on any fish. Will make you think about using it on a 40in fish. May end the year with your tag. If you catch a monster then you use it. Just a thought.

[hipkvw]

MistyLady, Maybe thats why he was talking about enforcing the river fishing. Seems like there is stuff goin on behind the scenes that many dont know about.

[hipkvw]

Originally posted by on the hook:
Posted a while back on a similiar thread. I would like 2 fish up to 33-36in. Keep the slot or not. Doesn't matter to me. You get ONE trophy tag per YEAR. To be used on any fish. Will make you think about using it on a 40in fish. May end the year with your tag. If you catch a monster then you use it. Just a thought. I have been saying the same for 3 years only 2 fish 28"-36". Maybe 2 Trophy tags. I think the slot may have been important as far as forage and space goes but thats just a hunch. It will never happen. NJ is too caught up in the BS to do what is good for the fish.

[THECHUMSTAIN]

Just like the thread about the bombing island in Peurto Rico, b!tch about not opening one area may cause the other side to get another area closed. No compromise with the striper worshipers, its all or nothing for them and it is closer to them getting nothing than it is for all they want.

Complain about some not releasing is lame because if it is legal we can keep it, they don't die if they aren't hooked so us guys that don't release only kill our limit no residual deaths. ;)

[hipkvw]

Lets just say I knew about the Herring BS 3 months ago.

[In Depth]

Are there things in the works , Probably . There's always something in the works.

Is it what he said it is, probably not . It's almost never what they say it is .

[BLUEFINN]

Originally posted by hipkvw:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by on the hook:
Posted a while back on a similiar thread. I would like 2 fish up to 33-36in. Keep the slot or not. Doesn't matter to me. You get ONE trophy tag per YEAR. To be used on any fish. Will make you think about using it on a 40in fish. May end the year with your tag. If you catch a monster then you use it. Just a thought. I have been saying the same for 3 years only 2 fish 28"-36". Maybe 2 Trophy tags. I think the slot may have been important as far as forage and space goes but thats just a hunch. It will never happen. NJ is too caught up in the BS to do what is good for the fish. </font>[/QUOTE]Ya that would be (GREAT) then the commercial interests netters R&R etc would be able to catch them and sell them. :rolleyes:

Never voluntarly give up anything!Make them drag it from your cold fingers :mad: Give an inch they take a mile. :mad: :mad:

[Slammer3]

Hip,the U.M.D.B. will not let them take away the striper in the spring!!! :mad: I beieve whoever told you that they will close the bay for the spring run is blowing smoke out of thier *ss. :eek: Do you think the marinas aren't going to fight this,its extra money for them,plus the weakfish sucked last year. :rolleyes: Plus not count all the rec out there fishing also,we need to have our bay fishing fix. smile.gif How are they going to enforce this,believe it or not,there are other fish in the bay other than striper in the spring!!! It will not really mattter to me,the crew of the Slammer 3 will be bluefishing during the springtime if this ever happens. :eek: I can't help it if the bass bite the hook while fishing with bunker for those tasty bluefish :D

[hipkvw]

They closed the river...why not the Bay? You may catch them but what about keeping them? I am just passing along what I heard ;)

[windmeup]

If they screw around the big pond with the stripers, there will be more than a few charter boats going out of business! The Fort made it with the so so flounder fishing. If anyone smart enough that stayed open into striper fishing, they made money! Unless they closed early as usual? There's a few Captains at the Fort which you guys will notice gone this coming season. Figures, after we get the creek dredged the correct way for the second time? Like the Doctor said... Your not gonna die from a heart attack...your fine... but you do have aids!!.....

[BLUEFINN]

First of all there is no evidance or science to support closeing the DB, Who ever told you this is screwing with your head and most likely watching this thread drinking cheap beer and ROFLHAO.

I picked up my net lic at Nacote cr last week and inquired about the loss of the slot? Was advised that NJ is going ahead with the same program as 03 and if pushed by ASMF to give up the slot then the Gov has stated the state will go to court.

Conservation ofcr's are like any cop ask 3 different ones the same question and you will get at least two differant answers. Just like here on the BB someone will ask a Q and another will answer a third will ask again without reading the thread.ie the herring issue!

The bay is full of fish from trenton falls to the rips year round in the spring there are so many slot and smaller fish it's almost impossable to net shad, the state knows this and thats why there are fighting the producer status.

And finally this Gov is so down in popularity that there is no way he wants to piss off a large number of fisherman during an election year!

One thing being considered is closeing a much grater area of bay front during the spring migration of the little birds(Sand Piper) that caused the Crab issue,this will no doubt hurt those without boats.

[hipkvw]

Fishing in the winter is a blast! Sorry guys. Im full of s**t! Just trying to get the Del Bay Forum going strong ;) :D

[TWIN D'S]

Originally posted by hipkvw:
Im full of s**t! That's why you didn't see any posts from me on this thread. :D

Phil

[gilhop]

Originally posted by MISTYLADY2:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by hipkvw:
I HEARD from a good source that the D.Bay WILL have a CLOSED SEASON in Spring(possibly 2005) and that the Delware River below Salem will also be closed as is the river above Salem. He also said the EEZ will be open but the season will be limited as it is in many southern states for ocean fishing??? This person also said that POSSIBLY people fishing in the river for stripers WOULD be discouraged(whatever the heck that means) from doing so. He mentioned DOD may see some ACTION(whatever that means) THIS spring. This is from someone high up in Fish and Game. I dont know if he is hearing rumors and blowing it out of proportion or if he was blowing smoke up my butt. Anybody know anything??? Dont shoot the messinger :eek: THEIR IS ALSO A RUMOR THAT IN ORDER TO GET A BONUS CARD YOU WILL HAVE TO PURCHASE A STAMP. THIS MONEY WILL GO TO HIRE MORE CONSERVATION OFFICERS AND BIOLOGIST. I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA SINCE THAT SOME INDIVUALS DONT KNOW HOW TO RELEASE. AND OTHERS JUST BREAK THE RULES AND KEEP EVERYTHING OVER THE LIMIT.

MISTYLADY </font>[/QUOTE]all you have to do is look at some of the pictures of the big breeders that appear on the barn they should all be thrown bck those big fish dont cook up very whell taste just like big blues, we should be able to keep the smaller ones they have a better taste and this way the breeders can do there thing and assure us of continued good stripper fishing. :eek:

[WETDREAM]

Hey Hip.....It ain't soup unless it's stirred :D
Sure is gettin choppy around here.....I'm seeing a few white caps ;)

[BIGGESTJACK]

I WENT TO 14FT TO FISH FOR CHIP-MONKS,I WAS TOLD NO FISHING FOR THEM TILL LABOR DAY.THATS OK I'LL KILL ALL THE RACOONS OUT HERE?????

[THECHUMSTAIN]

Originally posted by hipkvw:
Im full of s**t! :D Thats an understatement tongue.gif

[vern]

Damm Hip when you are not out fishing for fish you are out fishing for fishermen..

You hooked me and had the reel screaming thank you for not setting the hook, cound not stand to have my eyes crossed again...

[VDAWG]

Hip,
you S.O.B im sitting here reading that,think WTF how the hell can they do that,what are we supposed to fish for,But i did like the chunking for bluefish reply,LOL,You got Me,Vinny Pastella

[hipkvw]

After Bluefinn posted that somewhat lengthy post I figured I better spill the beans. All in fun guys.

Twin Ds, LOL ;)

[Bgsdad]

As far as a stamp goes this is nothing but a step towards salt water fishing license. The money will all go to yhe bureacrats. They did the same things with freswater fishing. Buy a license and you still have to buy a Trout Stamp. What more do they do for freshwater fishing than a few Trout stockings. I hunt with a shotgun, bow and muzzleloader and need to buy a license and permit for each one. And when the state can't manage the herd they make another season and charge for a permit. The $40.00 quail & pheasant stamp is another joke. Don't get me started!!!!! :mad:

Hip you'rea trouble maker!!lol :D

[Ron Redington]

Originally posted by TWIN D'S:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by hipkvw:
Im full of s**t! That's why you didn't see any posts from me on this thread. :D

Phil </font>[/QUOTE]I didn't bite either Phil.

Nice try keith ;)

[captainbadfinger]

Kieth,you should have let it go longer,I am looking for a cheap center console :D tongue.gif If you would have chunked a little heavier you would have had them chewin` real good :D

[wish2fish]

Yeah Keith, I had lockjaw on this one as well. ;)

[hipkvw]

I was going to make it into a cowq killing thread but I didnt want people to get upset :eek: I know how crazy some of you Barners get ;)

[Ron Redington]

Originally posted by hipkvw:
I was going to make it into a cowq killing thread but I didnt want people to get upset :eek: I know how crazy some of you Barners get ;) Keith, don't make me post the picture of you with the cooler full of tiderunners...cause I'll do it ya know ;)

[hipkvw]

That was 1999. The biggest was 6 1/2 pounds I think ;) Dont defend the beer guzzling, cow killing, bait chunking Barners that I like to mess with tongue.gif

[BLUEFINN]

Hip: You almost had me going on this one! :eek: After liveing in NJ for some 37 yrs And seeing other regulations and laws made that have no place in reality I thought it possable! tongue.gif

The shame of it is I have almost moved from NJ on several occassions but the dam place has everything that I enjoy in life,Good Hunting,Fishing ,Scuba diving and a tolerable climate. smile.gif

Be Advised ,Take Notice,Remember! there are forces in play now that will seek (Retribution)for the aforementioned acts of cruelty! :D

But it was a Good One! :cool:

[hipkvw]

Bluefin, LOL. NJ is messed up in many ways but it is also a great place to grow up and live in. Someday FL will be home but I'll still come and visit!

[Justin]

I read an article a while back stating that having a minimum size requirement can actually harm a fishery. By removing only the stripers greater than 28 inches and throwing back all the stripers less than 28 inches, we can actually harm the gene pool. In effect we are keeping fish with the genes to grow larger and reach the minimum length in a shorter amount of time, and throwing back a fish with inferior genes that grow at slower rate. The fishery will (over years) contain a higher number of fish containing genes which promote a slower/smaller growth rate.
I would like to see a program similar to the Redfish program in Florida. Fish OVER a specified length would be thrown back, and if you choose you are able to keep smaller fish for the table. In addition each angler would be allowed one trophy tag per year. They also have a similar program for Halibut were the large breeding fish are releases.

[hipkvw]

Originally posted by Justin:
I read an article a while back stating that having a minimum size requirement can actually harm a fishery. By removing only the stripers greater than 28 inches and throwing back all the stripers less than 28 inches, we can actually harm the gene pool. In effect we are keeping fish with the genes to grow larger and reach the minimum length in a shorter amount of time, and throwing back a fish with inferior genes that grow at slower rate. The fishery will (over years) contain a higher number of fish containing genes which promote a slower/smaller growth rate.
I would like to see a program similar to the Redfish program in Florida. Fish OVER a specified length would be thrown back, and if you choose you are able to keep smaller fish for the table. In addition each angler would be allowed one trophy tag per year. They also have a similar program for Halibut were the large breeding fish are releases. Hey Justin! You been reading my post the past couple years? Well said! I have been saying it too long. Welcome to the Barn!!!!!!

[Justin]

Hip, I'm glad to hear you agree. Can't wait til spring....

[John De Lise]

Well guess my house in New Jersey will go up for sale if that happens. :( :( Plenty of good fishing here in Florida. tongue.gif

[hipkvw]

Originally posted by John De Lise:
Well guess my house in New Jersey will go up for sale if that happens. :( :( Plenty of good fishing here in Florida. tongue.gif John it was a joke in case you didnt read on ;) Ya just have to keep rubbing it in that your in Florida dont you? :D

[Ron Redington]

See what ya started keith ;)

[wish2fish]

"Dont defend the beer guzzling, cow killing, bait chunking Barners that I like to mess with"

Hey! I resemble that remark :D :D But we refer to it as power drinking ;)

[fishpole5]

I'm a part time schoobie and I didn't bite either, see , your in here stirring the pot and I'm watching them catch fish on espn2--I'd rather be a schoobie today tongue.gif :D :D

[hipkvw]

LOL...as In Depth would shout...SHOOBIE DOBBY DOO!

I have to admit I love the fishing shows!

Power Drinking...I beer bonged 5 beers at a party 5 or 6 years back. All at once! What the heck was I thinking??? :eek:

[Darrin G. DGREENEMACHINE]

I sure am glad I read the whole thread cause I was about to call an acquaitaince of mine whose a CO and boy would that have been embarassing...

[hipkvw]

Originally posted by Darrin G. DGREENEMACHINE:
I sure am glad I read the whole thread cause I was about to call an acquaitaince of mine whose a CO and boy would that have been embarassing... LOL...he would have been cracking up ;) You gonna make it to the next fly club meeting???

[In Depth]

Shooobie Dooobie Dooo :D

Ya notice how measured my response was.
Kinda looked like a trolled bait to me.... :D