Dredging at the Fort...

[windmeup]

It started today and already they blew a hole in the pipe. They had to fix it and start again. That's why in the first place they messed up.

[shinyo 2]

It seems improbable that the State with a deficet in the hundred of millions would spend money tp dredge that creek. I realize that this is a State Marina but why not wrap the show up there and put the Operation in the Maurice River. The river has the proper depth and the mouth of the river has enough depth to alllow the passage of Oyster Boats that I'm sure draws more water than the party boats at the Fort.Do we as taxpayers spend our dollars on a project that will just fill in again while the Maurice remains open compliment of Nature.I don't have anything against the Fort, but why throw money on something that is just going to be a continual repeat cycle.What do you think? smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

[windmeup]

you raise some good points however,... Everytime they dredged, they dropped the ball and didn't plan the cure just right. This time after the dredge, the Army Corp of Engineers will take the money already alotted out years ago and construct a rock jetty out to the turn bouy or there abouts. With this in place that will stop the northern migration of sand that seems to find its way in the deep channel. If they don't do this then it is just dumping money down the toilet.

[shinyo 2]

Originally posted by windmeup:
you raise some good points however,... Everytime they dredged, they dropped the ball and didn't plan the cure just right. This time after the dredge, the Army Corp of Engineers will take the money already alotted out years ago and construct a rock jetty out to the turn bouy or there abouts. With this in place that will stop the northern migration of sand that seems to find its way in the deep channel. If they don't do this then it is just dumping money down the toilet. Now that makes SENSE!!!!!They did the same thing at the mouth of the Maurice. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

[Bill Holzworth]

I would still do whatever it takes to keep the Fort going, we need all the facilities we can get.

But I like Shinyo's idea, a state marina on the Maurice might work.

Isn't Four Star up for sale ?

Bill

[MISTYLADY2]

Originally posted by shinyo 2:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by windmeup:
you raise some good points however,... Everytime they dredged, they dropped the ball and didn't plan the cure just right. This time after the dredge, the Army Corp of Engineers will take the money already alotted out years ago and construct a rock jetty out to the turn bouy or there abouts. With this in place that will stop the northern migration of sand that seems to find its way in the deep channel. If they don't do this then it is just dumping money down the toilet. Now that makes SENSE!!!!!They did the same thing at the mouth of the Maurice. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif </font>[/QUOTE]THE ENTRANCE TO THE RIVER WAS NEVER COMPLETED. THE PROBLEMS FROM THAT ARE SURFACING AT LONGREACH WHERE THE INSIDE AND SOME OUTSIDE SLIPS FILL UP WITH SILT TOWARD THE END OF THE SEASON. BEFORE THEY STARTED THAT PROJECT ON THE ENTRANCE LONGREACH NEVER HAD THAT PROBLEM.

MISTYLADY

[gilhop]

Originally posted by windmeup:
you raise some good points however,... Everytime they dredged, they dropped the ball and didn't plan the cure just right. This time after the dredge, the Army Corp of Engineers will take the money already alotted out years ago and construct a rock jetty out to the turn bouy or there abouts. With this in place that will stop the northern migration of sand that seems to find its way in the deep channel. If they don't do this then it is just dumping money down the toilet. do you have any idea of the time needed to do a project like that i cant see them spending that kind of money were there is a small return on capital not in this day and age and also with the poor seasons they have been having if the weakfish dont show up any better then the last couple of years there will be less return on investment and i am sure you know what that would mean it would be good but i think highly unlikely :confused: :eek: :mad:

[windmeup]

Moey is there! If the job was done the right way with "the Captains assiciation watching over while the dredge was done a few years ago, we would not be talking about it now. We seem to have kids that grew up riding their bikes behind the spray trucks that fogged the roads for mesquiteoes? They are the ones that can't think! let alone organize a plan! jmo. based on facts at the Fort!.

[gilhop]

Originally posted by windmeup:
Moey is there! If the job was done the right way with "the Captains assiciation watching over while the dredge was done a few years ago, we would not be talking about it now. We seem to have kids that grew up riding their bikes behind the spray trucks that fogged the roads for mesquiteoes? They are the ones that can't think! let alone organize a plan! jmo. based on facts at the Fort!. have you heard for sure that this is going to be done this year or are you just hoping it gets done

[gilhop]

Originally posted by windmeup:
Moey is there! If the job was done the right way with "the Captains assiciation watching over while the dredge was done a few years ago, we would not be talking about it now. We seem to have kids that grew up riding their bikes behind the spray trucks that fogged the roads for mesquiteoes? They are the ones that can't think! let alone organize a plan! jmo. based on facts at the Fort!. have you heard for sure that this is going to be done this year or are you just hoping it gets done

[freedom]

theres no reason why the fort shouldn't get the job done, they paid taxes for years like anyone elese..

maybe they shouldn't use a micky mouse drege co. with half worn out junk.they should had been out of there zip bap bop*gees you think they were dredging the dang ship channle

and if they don't get their jetty why don't you boaters and charter boys start your own,i bet at the end of one season you'd have a heck of a rock pile,or tow one or two of the half sunk oyster boats up there, from the maurice. bring back the good ole days...who needs state money,

freedom

[gilhop]

Originally posted by freedom:
theres no reason why the fort shouldn't get the job done, they paid taxes for years like anyone elese..

maybe they shouldn't use a micky mouse drege co. with half worn out junk.they should had been out of there zip bap bop*gees you think they were dredging the dang ship channle

and if they don't get their jetty why don't you boaters and charter boys start your own,i bet at the end of one season you'd have a heck of a rock pile,or tow one or two of the half sunk oyster boats up there, from the maurice. bring back the good ole days...who needs state money,

freedom freedom you know the deal you work on the water never happen that way nor do i think it will ever happen at all were not talking about a inlet that could pay for its self there is know off season use except for some crabing if the weather is ok not many oyster boats so what do you think how much do you think it would cost to have a jetty out to the turn bouyjust think how much is it coasting to get it dredged let alone building all the way out any body care to guess :confused: :confused: :eek:

[windmeup]

You both make a strong base for counter-arguments! neitherwhich will gain ground. Some people like to talk about the Fort's history? Well History is made today and when the wrong decisions are made or lack of, then you have a basis like you gentlemen have now! To start with, The marine Police would not be where they are in location today if it wasn't for all of the Speakeasy's and drunks at the Fort! The State Police had all plans to locate into the Fort. I give you after reading this why it was fought hard to keep them out??? You lose it took you more than a split second to think! Now Reutgers was going to locate a center right across the creek in the Fort for the study of "Oysters"! I give you one plit second for a guess what group of people shot this down ENNNNNNNN! took you to long! The story keeps repeating on any change for the better for the FORT! I bet If someone wanted to open a bar, ...never mind it took you less than a NANO second to answer that. What's the cure? Start electing people that are not school teachers and MEN/Women with BALLS! Change would then move faster than hemroids growing on Teachers

[borntofish]

poor windy, desperately in need of serious counseling/name certainly fits /sure glad he doesn't drink(haha)/could you imagine the rantings then?/pity he doesn't get his stories? right :cool:

[justadandy]

Originally posted by borntofish:
poor windy, desperately in need of serious counseling/name certainly fits /sure glad he doesn't drink(haha)/could you imagine the rantings then?/pity he doesn't get his stories? right :cool: BIGGESTJACK, Is it too late to recall Windy as the semi-mayor of Delaware Bay? Treatment is needed, whether it be a beer or "steroid" problem. Is BALCO located in Bay Areas other than San Francisco? :eek: :confused: ;)

[Matt K]

The dredge is across from Double A marina, sitting silent except for one diesel running I don't know what that one motor is for, prolly a pump or something.

At high water I ran out of the creek I looked at my depth finder it was 14.5 feet. Just about where they were dredging last week and at low water coming in it was 7.5 feet in the mouth just before Double A. Not sure how deep they are going to make it, anyone have any ideas'?

The name on the dredge is "Barneget Bay Dredge" it look's like a pretty old machine. One word of caution .... watch out for their pontoons, there is no flags or lights on them!!!!! Just in case anyone decides to run out at night!!!! ( not that there are anyone going out that I know of) But if someone does keep an eye out for them!!!!

Matt K

"Katcha'saurus"

[windmeup]

Ask MR.t...just a dandy.. he's fast to slam you but will post nothing that makes normal understanding for our boating world. This is fact! He rather slam you than investigate if the facts are true? I grew up with kids like that all the time! (Now they're teachers/lawyers) He has to be one of them shcool teahers that can not teach and now does not a thing! (Non functional excuses for a non posting supposed to be fisher person). 12:01 means I can be my self! NO be nice to the "misfits and non funtional people in society! Even them peole that want to post but can't even catch a fish? Right just a wopping dandy?? As to the rest of us, if you/I can't catch fish, IT DON'T matter! as long as you catch the fish before justdandy :D :mad: :D :cool: does. :D :mad: :D

[borntofish]

wow YOU went to school/sure fooled me especially when i TRY to read your posts/guess you missed english classes/

[BIGGESTJACK]

THE BELL IS OUT.

WE GOT A TWO REGISTRATION MAN.GRILL HIM OR FRY HIM OR GUESS WHO HE IS.3 GUESSES

1.--MM
2.--EVERYBODIES DANDY
3.--WAS THINKING STAIN BUT HE WAS RIPPING THE CHUMSTAIN APART.
3.--AN EAGLE FAN TRYING TO GET WINDY.

[ 03-08-2004, 10:32 AM: Message edited by: BIGGESTJACK ]

[justadandy]

Originally posted by windmeup:
Ask MR.t...just a dandy.. he's fast to slam you but will post nothing that makes normal understanding for our boating world. This is fact! He rather slam you than investigate if the facts are true? I grew up with kids like that all the time! (Now they're teachers/lawyers) He has to be one of them shcool teahers that can not teach and now does not a thing! (Non functional excuses for a non posting supposed to be fisher person). 12:01 means I can be my self! NO be nice to the "misfits and non funtional people in society! Even them peole that want to post but can't even catch a fish? Right just a wopping dandy?? As to the rest of us, if you/I can't catch fish, IT DON'T matter! as long as you catch the fish before justdandy :D :mad: :D :cool: does. :D :mad: :D Windy, I had composed my usual clever responses to to this nonsense you posted. But when I hit the add reply button, the Boss had shut down the Barn. Now I can't remember a thing of what I wrote at that time.

So, with the modernized version of the Barn, lets start out on the best of terms. Yeah!! I know it won't be as much fun. We can become non-functional again next winter. Otherwise, I have the best (or closest thing to a) lawyer at the Fort!! :D

Dang, I have to keep removing smilies because Windy used so many in his post.

[BIGGESTJACK]

I WAS JUST GOING TO TRY TO START A FIGHT TO GET THE BARN GOING BUT WE NEED A SUBJECT TO FIGHT ABOUT.

[Ron Redington]

Originally posted by justadandy:
when I hit the add reply button, the Boss had shut down the Barn.

Sorry about that Dandy!

[Ron Redington]

Guys, trust me when I tell ya I really would luv to watch ya all beat the stuffing out of each other over the "issues" at the FORT...but not here at the BARN! I'd rather see ya do it in a Cage Match or maybe even the Octagon.

The BARN is an all quiet, amicable, at peace, bloodless, calm, collected, composed, constant, easeful, equable, gentle, halcyon, harmonious, irenic, level, mellow, neutral, neutralist, nonbelligerent, nonviolent, pacifistic, peace-loving, peaceable, placatory, placid, quiet, restful, serene, smooth, sociable, steady, still, tranquil, undisturbed, unruffled, untroubled, without hostility kinda place ;)

Do me a favor and restore my faith in the human race by keeping this debate somewhat civil. TWIND'S and I are still on our "offseason" vacation. We're not ready for this stuff yet...LOL!

Now fight nice...please smile.gif

[ 03-13-2004, 11:36 AM: Message edited by: Ron Redington ]

[justadandy]

Originally posted by Ron Redington:
Guys, trust me when I tell ya I really would luv to watch ya all beat the stuffing out of each other over the "issues" at the FORT...but not here at the BARN! I'd rather see ya do it in a Cage Match or maybe even the Octagon.

The BARN is an all quiet, amicable, at peace, bloodless, calm, collected, composed, constant, easeful, equable, gentle, halcyon, harmonious, irenic, level, mellow, neutral, neutralist, nonbelligerent, nonviolent, pacifistic, peace-loving, peaceable, placatory, placid, quiet, restful, serene, smooth, sociable, steady, still, tranquil, undisturbed, unruffled, untroubled, without hostility kinda place ;)

Do me a favor and restore my faith in the human race by keeping this debate somewhat civil. TWIND'S and I are still on our "offseason" vacation. We're not ready for this stuff yet...LOL!

Now fight nice...please smile.gif Windy and I are starting anew; I am waiting for his invitation to go catch some stripers at WR Buoy. You got the numbers windemup?? :D

Biggest, I read up on your Horse and saw nothing on his being gelded. Was "he" born that way. Don't interfere here Windy! I would take Big Red in a match race. My ignorance on Kelso was due to serving my sentence in solitary at State Penn. smile.gif

[Matt K]

"go ahead knock that stick of my shoulder!"


Matt K

"Katcha'saurus"