Question about 2005 Delaware River Striper Regs

[JusGetOnDaHook]

After reading the 2005 regs on boundary waters (Delaware River North of Comm Barre Bridge and south of Calhoun street in Trenton specifically), confused about a couple of things. Is it legal to acquire both species of herring (baitfish) with a cast net? If so, what is the largest diameter net that can be used. I also saw a time restriction on no acquisition of these baitfish with any net after saturday 2pm to sunday.. Is this accurate? Is there a restrcition when using sabiki style rigs to acquire herring for bait? Usually the rigs are 9 hooks. Not sure if the 3 hook or 3 burr per hook reg encompasses bait acquisition, or does it just pertain to acutally angling for gamefish. Also, is it legal in this stretch of the Delaware to use artificials for striped bass or do you have to use natural baits? Thanks!

[dante413]

I'm not sure on the net regs, but I believe the max. number of hooks allowed on a sabiki to catch herring is 3 hooks. I don't believe it is illegal to use artificials to catch stripers in the tidal Delaware. Just remember that you can't keep any fish below the Trenton Falls until June 1st.

[ 02-23-2005, 02:37 PM: Message edited by: dante413 ]

[longfin61]

i beleive you can keep fish bellow trenton falls from march 1 till april30 or march 31 not shore which one it is i didnt get my licence yet but im shore it will be in the book

[Chris Gatley]

the open date last year was march 1-31 then closed till june 1st. probably the same regs for this year.

they did change the border to calhoun street. 3 hooks on sabiki's is correct and cast net use to be 4 foot size but they may have changed also. as for the time - sounds weird - not sure. i did not read the regs because i got my license online.

[TSStriper]

Originally posted by Chris Gatley:

they did change the border to calhoun street. Did they really? That's good to know. I'm glad they did that if it's true!

[In Depth]

I havent read the new regs for this year either.

As far as the sabikki hooks are concerned it was three trebbles or up to 9 points. They may have changed the reg this year , i realy need to sit down with my manual for 05 and check up on any new regs.

A cast net is legal not to excede 4'dia.

[Chris Gatley]

yeah - per mark boriek of the NJ fish and wildlife, the state of NJ line is the Calhoun street. I think PA kept it at the actual falls like before.

[JusGetOnDaHook]

In Depth, the 2005 freshwater digest says that for bait acquisition a cast net can be used no greater than an 8' diameter.. Did you mean a 4' radius? I though that to be true as well with sabiki rigs last year, up to nine single hooks but I don't get that same impression this year.. I read it to be a maximum of three single hooks.. Here is the link to the 2005 Freshwater digest if anyone is interested:

http://www.njfishandwildlife.com/pdf/2005/digfsh05.pdf

[JusGetOnDaHook]

Also, below is an excerpt from the 2005 freshwater digest underneath the 2005 Freshwater Fishing Boundary Waters Season and Creel Limits section regarding baitfish, and the netting of them.. Pay special attention to the time restraint listed for netting..


*Baitfish may be taken and possessed for personal use and are not to be bartered or sold. The possession limit for baitfish in the Delaware River between New Jersey and Pennsylvania is 50 per day. Alewife and blueback herring are regulated as food fish with a one-day possession limit of 35 in aggregate in the Delaware River between New Jersey and Pennsylvania. It is unlawful to use a net of any kind between the
hours of 2 p.m. Saturday through Sunday. Eel weirs for catching carp, catfish, eels and suckers may be operated under a permit from NJ Division of Fish and Wildlife at any time of the year and any time of day.
**Striped bass regulations are subject to change. Consult our Web site www.njfishandwildlife.com (http://www.njfishandwildlife.com) and the news media for updates.

[JusGetOnDaHook]

And under the 2005 baitfish acquisition section regarding the use of hooks/etc.. :

Hook and line:
Maximum of 9 single hooks or 3 hooks with 3 burrs per contrivance on all waters except the Delaware River where only 3 single hooks are permitted.

[longfin61]

THANKS CHRIS. NEW IT WAS ONE OR THE OTHER. SURE IT WILL BE THE SAME THIS YEAR. THE THREE HOOKS ON THE SABIKI RIGS IS A DEFINITE.

BILL

[In Depth]

Ondahook

4' radius and 8'diameter are the same thing.

4 foot closed and 8' opened up.

Radius is always half of the diamater. I know it's confusing because they sell them by radius, but they are regulated by diameter..... :rolleyes:

It's just another example of how confusing our sport is.


Also i need to check the pa regs because there are times when they dont match, and some anglers can play by different rules..... :rolleyes:

[ 03-04-2005, 05:57 PM: Message edited by: In Depth ]

[In Depth]

Hey Chris,

I'll be out real soon , it's about time to start pickin at the eye's. See ya soon.

[dante413]

Frankly, I don't know why anyone would want to keep a striper out of the Delaware River???

[Bunka Chunka]

Hey Dante Ill tell ya why.There is a small population of resident Stripers the rest are migratory,The same fish we keep in the Bay are also the same Bass we catch in the River.In june most of the Stripers I have caught were Slot Fish and maybe a few over 30"inches.They tasted great just like I had caught them in the Bay and Ocean.Good Luck out on the River,HRL

[Topcat]

Per the Pa regulations, you are still allowed 2 stripers per day 28" or greater from March 1 to March 31 and after June 1st above the Trenton Falls.

35 Herring per day - no mention of number of hooks that I can find.

Here is the link.

http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/Fish_Boat/bookfish.htm

[Bunka Chunka]

Yeah Topcat this boundary waters stuff id hard to keep track of.NJ 2005 Boundary Water regulations Allows 1-24"or greater ,but less than 28" and 1-34"or greater From March 1-31 and June 1 -Dec 31.I guess it all depends on what port you leave from,HRL

[In Depth]

The folowing is rite out of the PA manual in referance to sabbiki's and cast nets.



TACKLE AND EQUIPMENT-2005


No more than three hooks shall be attached to a line used in fishing (one hook having two or three points is considered a ?single hook?). All rods, lines and hooks shall be under the immediate control of the person using them.

SNAGGING HOOKS may not be used or possessed while in the act of fishing. A snagging hook is a device designed or modified to facilitate the snagging of fish, and may be a hook with a single barb, weighted on a shank below the eye and above the barbs; or a hook otherwise designed or modified to make the snagging of fish more likely than it would be with a normal hook.


" Nets of all types " can be no larger (excluding the handle) than 4 feet square or 4 feet in diameter. It is unlawful to use any type of net or seine to catch or take gamefish.

[ 02-27-2005, 01:56 PM: Message edited by: In Depth ]

[Topcat]

Looks like I cut a couple hooks off my sabiki rigs.

[JusGetOnDaHook]

The sabiki rigs that are stocked in the Sportsmens center in Bordentown only have three hooks to accomodate the new regs.. I picked up several packs the other day. As far as the fish measurement regs, i believe its where the fish is landed.. if you take a boat out, it is which side you return to port on that enforces the reg.. cast nets on NJ side can be no bigger than a 4' radius (8' diameter)..

[JusGetOnDaHook]

Can anyone confirm, deny, or comment on the time restriction for use of any nets? In the 2005 NJ regs it says no nets of any type for use with bait acquistion can be used after 2pm on saturday to sunday. Does this mean 2pm on sunday meaning a 24 hour period on the weekend net use is off limits? was that a change from last year?

[Whiteyr]

I don't know about you In Depth but where I come from an 8' radius will give you a 16' dia!

[JusGetOnDaHook]

i think he knew what he meant but just typo'd it.. we all know that radius is distance from the middle of a circle to one end and diameter is edge to edge...

[JusGetOnDaHook]

so, no one knows about a netting restriction? i read it right in the freshwater journal but am still unsure on the timeframe. is it 24 hours from saturday at 2pm to sunday 2pm or what?

[In Depth]

Whiteyr
Hahahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!

You know i had to go back and read what i had said . Damb dislexia ! Hahahahahahaha !


OnDaHook


I dont have a copy of the nj regs so i cant read them, but it says 2 pm on saturday to sunday . No time was givin so i would asume they mean 1201am
But don't go by that !