What makes striped bass the

[THECHUMSTAIN]

I have read alot of posts on here from all forums and I have posted on all (I think). What I am not aware of is what makes striped bass the icon to interprit the law. Why do so many guys here thing or from their post make it sound like the striper is the greatest fish on this earth. Fish is a plural word in most cases. Why the crusade about them and not as aggressively as other fish in the water. Dog sharks I have heard are now protected, flounder , billfish etc all have regs. Why the major push about stripers. This is not an arguement I will not get into a battle here either I promise you that.

My thought on it is, because it effects more people due to their migration patterns and availablity to all to catch. ie: beach, bridges, rivers, lakes, bay and boat.

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[TheAdamBomb]

John, you hit the nail on the head. It is because of their availability to different groups of anglers utilizing both beach and boat.

I think many people feel just as strongly about other species. Aside from the occasional billfish discussion on the offshore forum, striped bass are the only ones which generate frequent management discussions.

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[beachboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by THECHUMSTAIN:
My thought on it is, because it effects more people due to their migration patterns and availablity to all to catch. ie: beach, bridges, rivers, lakes, bay and boat.
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i think the reasons you listed are some of the reasons for sure, but i also think its because we almost wiped them out once before. it wasn't mother nature, but by man... http://www.thebassbarn.com/ubb/eek.gif polution, commercial's, rec's, etc...

also, there is somthing just about bass for many people. all bass... i even know guys who kill pickeral because they think its good for the freshwater bass. http://www.thebassbarn.com/ubb/confused.gif

some of the debates/arguments are good though its like listening to guys argue about who is/was better barry bonds or ted williams... there are always the extremes, but somewhere in the middle there's good stuff.

[TheAdamBomb]

That is a very good point, beach boy. Yes, some of the arguments produce as much quality information as Ford v. Chevy v. Dodge debate!

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[Big Basstard]

Chumstain,

That's a damned good question.

I personally believe that it's popularity is such because it can get big, is easy to catch, and is abundant as hell. With all that going for it and it being able to be caught in waters that are anwhere from a drainage ditch to 3 miles off the beach a guy really doesn't need to have a battlewagon to be a contender.

I think that it's greatest alure is that a guy standing on a sod bank or jetty can catch a world record and did!

In a world where "size" really does matter keeps guys coming back for more.

I do believe that if they only got to ................... say 36"'s that there wouldn't be as many guys tracking them down. What the hell! Even at 36"s some people have them mounted!

If Weakies or Bluefish grew to be 50 plus pounds and stuck around a little longer my money would be that they would be targeted more than Stripers ........... say the strips not grow that large.


I'd say it's because they have the chance of catching a large fish!


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[beachboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Big Basstard:
Chumstain,

If Weakies or Bluefish grew to be 50 plus pounds and stuck around a little longer my money would be that they would be targeted more than Stripers ........... say the strips not grow that large.
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speaking about bluefish... this year was the best year in a long time for monster size blues! anybody know why?

yo adam we all know toyota beats them all http://www.thebassbarn.com/ubb/biggrin.gif LOL

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[TheAdamBomb]

beach boy, Haha! Don't get me started, please. I bleed Ford blue... http://www.thebassbarn.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[clamchucker]

Must agree with all above:
The strong comeback from almost gone, &
the want to keep it from repeating,
The chance to catch a large fish inshore,
The availability,
Not least, the quality & TASTE of the flesh!
They eat so goooooood. http://www.thebassbarn.com/ubb/smile.gif

[egghead]

Everybody has brought up good points. I was fishing with a guy last year that was writing a book about streipers. He asked, "Why do people get so passioante about stripers?"

Answer: Because we almost lost them.

He said that up and down the coast everyone he spoke to said the same thing.

[striper2278]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by egghead:
Everybody has brought up good points. I was fishing with a guy last year that was writing a book about streipers. He asked, "Why do people get so passioante about stripers?"

Answer: Because we almost lost them.

He said that up and down the coast everyone he spoke to said the same thing.[/QUOTE

Egghead..

Thats makes all the sense in the world to me.... But how do you explain me and other people that weren't even fishing at the time or even on this earth yet... I just think that they are the coolest. There are so many different ways to catch them..Thats my reason!



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[BIGGESTJACK]

GREAT ANSWER EGGHEAD THAT SHEADS A NEW STRONG LIGHT ON THIS WILD ISSUE

[In Depth]

Chum this might be your best topic to date.
Finaly a new one to ponder.

I agree completely with all of the above.
Good tasting
A realativly good fighter
Grows large
Glutunous feeder
Caught everywere from landlocked to the ocean
And to some extent it's mystical in the same way as wild trout are.

What other fish has all those quality's !

Passion is a wonderfull thing but like all good things to much of a good thing isin't good either.



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[Keeper Seeker]

Got to be all of the above.... plus... they are the only fish that no matter where you catch them day or night, they are always wearing those flashy pajamas!! http://www.thebassbarn.com/ubb/wink.gif http://www.thebassbarn.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.thebassbarn.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

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[THECHUMSTAIN]

Is that signature directed at me I am sensitive right now. LOL

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[Kegger]

don't forget the landlocked bass in resevoirs, people hunt them who do not live close enough to the beach.

[barnaby]

The chance of catching a 40lb+ fish in 10 foot of water along a sod bank or jetty. And for me, I can walk 2 blocks and be fishing for bass. For most large species, you have to have a boat and for some like tuna, you have to travel 20+ miles. Any fisherman with a $20 Kmart combo(nothing wrong with it) and a bag of clams has a shot at landing a monster.
To me, next to my son saying daddy, the splash of bass popping on bait is the greatest sound in the world.

Bern
How do I get a signature to come up? No seriously....

[THECHUMSTAIN]

Bern they wouldn't tel mee at first either. click the option on the reply to topic under your entry

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[striper2278]

NOW CARING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK. about open boat fishing


You are seriously crazy!

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[barnaby]

I think I got it.

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[Sea Devil]

I started to fish for stripers in the spring of 96 never realizing the size they get up... to would go out to cherry island flats on the delaware river anchor up and toss out bloodworms all day

always caught some ok sized ones (20-24 inchers) until the day i hooked into a 32 incher and from then on its been a sickness the potential to hook into a 20 -30- 40- lber is always there and its just the cast of a line away you just never know when and where you will hook up with em http://www.thebassbarn.com/ubb/eek.gif


tight lines
Bob
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sometimes. when the water is verry , verry, quiet ... you can actually hear the fish laughing at you !!!!




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[Ron Redington]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by THECHUMSTAIN:
Why do so many guys here thing or from their post make it sound like the striper is the greatest fish on this earth.
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stri-per fe-ver...

Abnormally high need to catch bass.

Any of various fishing diseases characterized by abnormally high body temperature while dreaming of catching a big bass.

A condition of heightened activity or excitement: a fever of anticipation to land the "Big One".

A contagious, usually long-lived enthusiasm or craze: To Go Striper Fishing.

[candyman]

Grew up on the north side of OC back in the sixties. Never saw a striper. Worked on the ACBP in the seventies. Never saw a striper. The eighties brought working casino. Didn't see ANYTHING let alone stripers. Then, the nineties,candymaking caught first one in '93. '98 got over 200 . Now, when it's good, can get one in one hour.
But the number one reason.....my brother fished his whole life and didn't live long enough to catch a keeper.

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[Theofish583]

I think the striper is sought after because of the size it can reach as well.

But I also believe that catching a striper is a little more of acomplishment. They eat everything under the sun, so you have to do a little more recon and "match the hatch" I feel it is a little more a thinking mans' fish. Granted during a big, ole bird play off the beach it is fishing for the stupid but...God is that fun.

For me and my family, catching stripers were a right of passage. My Grandfather fished the surf tournments in LBI. My dad used to fish the Rips when there weren't to many stripers around. My first crack at them came on the Lauren K out of CM. Miserable, windy 30+ NE wind off of the Ferris wheel. The guy next to me lands 44 inch, 33 lbs. It hit the deck like a bag of concrete. That was almost 20 years ago.
The things you go through to catch these fish. Going to the McDonald's in Anglesea to use the bathroom because my aunt's house in North Wildwood had no heat or water.

Striper fishing rules!!!

[TWIN D'S]

From the perspectiver of the shorebound oer small boat angler, there's really not much else to fish for after say, mid October. the sea bass are moving off, fluke is closed, the weakie run was weak, but there are some tog on the jetties.

So how do I answer this question? I ask myself,"Self, why are you out, soaked and freezing, in a CC boat in November in 30 degree weather?" Because I have a chance of catching a very large fish.

Phil

[JoeBlack]

I think that stripers are used all the time since this is "THE BASS BARN". But it gets out of hand like you said. We need to integrate "the fluke barn" and "the blue barn" with our efforts http://www.thebassbarn.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Theofish583]

Twin D's

You hit right on the head!!!

There have been many times I have said to myself "What in the hell am I doing here?" 30 degrees, stiff wind, eyes and nose are running looking for birds in December.

My wife looks at me 3:00 AM and just shakes her head....

There nothing else I would rather be doing than striper fishing. Floundering is fun...Wreck fishing is fun...Trolling is like watching paint dry...But striper fishing is an absolute blast.

[luv2fish]

Only one reason!

http://momentoffame.com/snapshots/MomentOfFame/l25575.jpg


Any questions?




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[beachboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by luv2fish:
Only one reason!

Any questions?
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nice fishy!

[Darrin G. DGREENEMACHINE]

Good topic Chum.

I can only speak for myself.

From 6 lb test and 1/4 oz jigs to 20 lb chunkin tackle. They are an absolute blast when the bite is on.

They get big (relatively), and sometimes you can catch 100 in a day.

It used to be they were the biggest fish within my reach. Now that I do a couple of charters every year and Bawugna taught me how to cath sharks, I guess it's more the commeradre than anything else.

Guys whose boats have sat in the slip for weeks start coming out of the woodwork, all worked up for stripers. It's just the energy and anticipation that brings me to it.

But then I only get to go tuner fishin once or twice a year.

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[beachboy]

this is from someone else, but i think it says alot.

"You get in to the groove as to what when and how, I guess it just takes Time and You never stop learning as I will never stop learning, each Year seems to be diffeent Yet the same so to speek.
Plus being on the water watching the sun set the sound of the suds and Birds, its a Religous thing For Me as I truly feel the salt Has been branded in My viens ever since I was a little kid catching cod and flounder from shore.
to Plug is truley an art.
the Key is knowing what to do and when.
a small needle one night with a french blade was killer, why. I dont know. But that plug from the Mid 70s gets used every Year...
The smell of Bass on the surf triggers an instinct that cant be controlled, or that Bunker smell. and when the squid are around its time for wood or an old Boone with glow in the dark eyes.....
God Help Me I love it so........"

[Ardmore Bill]

Great question, all great answers... for me its hard to put into words...here is a fish that can be found in the deepest ocean waters, in the surf into even ankle deep water, up rivers so far that they leave you wondering how they got there and leave you eyeing every tidal creek 100 miles inland - with the knowledge that even the bigger ones can be found there. When on herring they can take so hard that they nearly wrench the rod out of your hand, but on the fly even the biggest ones make barely a discernable tap - their depth and unpredictablity is unparalleled when comparing them to any other species. They are almost never easy; knowledge and experience help us glimpse into their world as we begin to learn their secrets. But, they always show us, year after year that we don't know all of them, maybe we never will.

As individual anglers we also guard these hard earned secrets - I believe this comes from the recognition that they are also vulnerable. No one angler is going to cause the demise of the striped bass, its the cumulative effect - so we guard our secret spots, so that their will always be enough fish for ourselves - and in this small way we all become zeolous champions of the striped bass.

Every year i catch this same striped bass, around the same time, a little fatter, same season, same rock, same tag - and every year I say hello(yes i talk to them sometimes) and release her. I hope she comes back every year, maybe that is why...

Bill

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[Ron Redington]

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[rock seeker]

Striped bass,for 30 years i have been fishing for this fish,from Maine,to the Cape,Rhode Island,and all points there and back,back to my beloved Jamaica bay,and what i have found is that this species is in a time warp.I can just as easily be 15 casting plugs from the surf or as I am now a charter boat capt.,have the same eagerness and satisfaction in catching them.This fish empowers me to be all that I want,and all that I want to do.If you need this question answered you should realize that you shouldn't have asked it.....

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[bass hound]

Because they taste good especially the breeders I keep and bring back from the canyon in my 18' boat

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[egghead]

When I can find a little tiny rip 1 mile back in the swamp and there are bass that will laugh at you.

[THECHUMSTAIN]

Hey Ardmore if I were giving prizes you might have just won it. Great story.

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[Ardmore Bill]

Thanks Chum - this is about the only place I get to practice my writing skills - for that (uhum) book I'll be writing one of these days on these great fish.

By the way, I'd sit with ya. Who cares if we have a difference of opinion - that just life. I can't make it to the fest, but next time I'll want ta hear ya spin a yarn about the stain - I'm sure you got some good ones.

Regards and Merry Christmas/Happy New Year

bill

[Tip of the day]

I think you have to look at the history of fishing for stripers. First, its a fish everyone can catch, unlike for example bluefin. Second, it is a beautiful fish caught in both fresh and salt water. Its habit makes it almost akin to salmon. But history tells a tale of stripers galore to be caught in the 60's pushing 70's and then BAM! they are gone. Proper mangement brought them back. We almost control their destiny. proper management is key for everyone including mr. striper. And finally, they are dam good eating!!

[NIGHTSTRIKES]

Bump !

[BUCKTAIL WILLIE]

Candyman--I don't know what you were doing in 60's but there were plenty of Stripers around Ocean City in 60's ,really didn't drop off until mid-70's
I just looked at one of my logs from 1968--
April 22 22 bass 18--37"
Sept 27 47 bass 26-39"
all on home made bucktails
The mighty Striper can be caught numerous different ways and this is no better sound than a bass hitting a surface plug.
Freshwater Striper is weaker than a Salty on,I've caught many in fresh water but they don't have same strength.
Stripers move up and down the coast and NJ bass can be in Maine in 3 weeks
Long season March to Dec is another reason

[seeker2]

Striper fishing for me is like deer hunting. I am in search of a 50lb bass. Everytime I set the hook my hart pounds just like when a 130inch buck approaches my stand. If the fish is not big I can't release the fish fast enough just because I want my line back in the water. I don't know if I will ever catch a 50lb bass, and if I do, I sure hope I don't loose my passion for the fish.

[striper2278]

I still like stripers the best :D

[BEACHBASSARD]

THEY EAT GOOD/GET BIG/ARE EVERY WHERE/AND WHEN PLENTYFUL REALY DONT TAKE MUCH SKILL TO CACTH/AND THE MIGRATION PATTERNS DO MAKE THEM OPEN TO A LARGER NUMBER OF FISHERMAN

[BEACHBASSARD]

THEY EAT GOOD/GET BIG/ARE EVERY WHERE/AND WHEN PLENTYFUL REALY DONT TAKE MUCH SKILL TO CACTH/AND THE MIGRATION PATTERNS DO MAKE THEM OPEN TO A LARGER NUMBER OF FISHERMAN

[CapeMayRay]

I consider stripers to be premiere fish for most of the same reasons as many have posted. What other large fish can you catch on popping plugs, flys and rubber baits in the calm waters of the back bay in shallow water 2 to 5 feet, on light tackle. Sure there are other methods like chunking, clamming and eeling. I like those too, but I like the scaling down of the tackle and the explosive topwater action. Odds of getting a record fish in the back is slim, but the mid size fish that show up make my blood rush.

I love to catch marlin and tuna and regularly spend the time offshore for them and love every
long hard hour of it. With stripers you don't have to pound offshore for a 12 hour day, weather rarely makes it too difficult to fish, and you don't have to look like a raisin dried in the sun and you get all this a short distance from the dock.

[BIGGESTJACK]

CAPE MAY RAY--LETS SEE IF I CAN ASK THIS THE RIGHT WAY.I FISHED MAINLY OFFSHORE FROM THE 50'S AND WE HAD A HOUSE IN WWW OR A MOBILE HOME AT SHAWCREST AND I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT STRIPERS AND MY FATHER WAS FRIENDS WITH A LOT OF CHARTER CAPTS AND HEADBOAT CAPTS.WAS THERE MANY FISHING THEM? LETS SAY 1960 SATURDAYS IN OCT. AND NOV. WOULD THERE BE MANY BOATS IN THE RIPS.
WHEN WE WOULD TAKE THE BOAT TO ROCK HALL THATS ALL THAT WAS TALKEDABOUT BUT I NEVER HEARD THEM MENTIONED AT THE CAPE.IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE WHEN THE 90'S STARTED THEY WERE THERE?

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[thediehardfisherman]

This is all I have to say back in october of '98 I caught my first striper in the delaware bay. My cousin was using this really fat fishing pole-you couldn't feel a weakie or flounder hit on it, thats how heavy of an action this stubby boat rod was. When out of no where line screaming from the reel caught our attention and the sight of this heavy action rod bend nearly in half was incredible. I grabbed the pole and what ever was on the other end of the line was big and powerful, I was so excited that I could barely stand up. Well, after about 20 minute battle we landed this beautiful 39" stiper in the boat. That has been the biggest one that I have ever caught. Now I own 11 fishing rods 2 tackle boxes, tons of rigs and hooks not to mention lures. I'm hooked, can't wait to catch a 50"er don't care if its fifty pounds just want to catch a 50". I love salt water fishing but when its fall or spring nothing beats the sound of a screaming reel with a striper at the other end taking dragg out, not to mention the sight of a stiper when it hits and it slams the tip of your rodd down towards the water. Stripers are a NJ trophy fish. Great taste, hell of a fight, can fish any where to catch em-beach, boat, dock, pier, bridge, sodd banks. They don't burn a hole in your wallet trying to catch them.

[CapeMayRay]

During the 60's there were bass being caught. I was in high school then and knew people that were catching big stripers in Cape May and Delaware bay. It just wasn't advertised. The guys catching kept it quiet and shared the information with very few. In the early 90's I remembered those stories I had heard from earlier years and was trying live eels in the rips a few years before it even got hot and was lucky to fish the rips in the years before it became super crowded. During those early years you could also get super big slammer blues in the bay from late October to December which don't seem to be around anymore. What other good sized fish it available to all those that fish, boat, backbay or surf and rivers and we all have our personal dreams of catching that super big one.

[Capt Lew]

Hey....were else can I drive 12 minutes from my house. Take a boat ride 15 to 30 minutes and get into 15 to 35 pound fish on a regular basis, with a shot at a 50 pounder or more. http://www.p2p-zone.com/underground/images/smilies/2thumbs.gif http://www.p2p-zone.com/underground/images/smilies/2thumbs.gif

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[JPHooks]

Everyone's input seems to be factual to me, but I also feel that having a reg. on the stripers, which seemes to be getting more and more strict, makes it more challenging for us as anglers. Great point Chumstain!

[Vrau]

I have fished all my life in freshwater and liked it. Last year was my first year really learing the bay and ocean and catching nice size flounder and sea bass. This year I fish as much as I can. So far I have caught a 9.5 pound fluke, multiple 4 pound seabass and a 12 pound weakie this year. I still recall surf fishing trips from last fall that i didnt catch anything. I love all sorts of fishing and its always on my mind. But back to bass... that cold air that blew threw NJ last week reminded me of one thing... Sitting in the back bay, freezing and wet drifting eel's for stripers. Now I wish there was only one season. Fall Striper season.