Presenting your Bucktail in the CM Rips.....

[striper2278]

Bucktailing the Rips

As a charter boat Captain I get asked alot of questions. Either it be by my charters or through emails from other people fishing their own boats. This past season we fished alot with bucktails in the rips, even when they were bitting on eels. "On most days the bucktails would out do the eels".

Back to my point. I would have to say the most frequent asked questions this year were, "how were you working your bucktails"and "what are you doing different"? What I would tell my customers/emailers to do is, "slow and on the bottom". Now when I say slow, I mean just crawling the bucktail along the bottom, "SLOW". You can bounce it or change speeds with your retrieve, but %99.9 of the time they will go for the slower easier

target! I do keep the butt of my rod planted in my stomach area and the tip of the rod at an upward angle. This goes for spring and fall.

Tackle used for Bucktailing

We really don't use anything special as far as bucktails are concerned. We use a 1oz white
bucktail with a chartruse twister tail in the fall and just a bucktail with a strip of mackeral in the spring. We use 6'6"-7' spinning rods. We find that using a spinning rod for bucktailing is easier, just because of casting purposes. Although, I myself do use a conventinal every now and again for bucktailing. Use what you feel comfortable casting and retrieving with! Also the lighter your line the better . I use 20lb Braid!

Bait Preperation

With the mackeral in the spring I have a little trick. When you fillet the mackeral out the first thing that I like to do is thin the fillet out by just removing some of the meat. All you have to do is shave some the meat off like you were skinning it, but don't go all the way. Second thing is, that I like to flip the mackeral fillet around to were you have the tail end of the fillet. I start by taking my strips from that end because it will not flake the meat and looks like more of a natural presentation. One thing that I would like to add is, I'm am very fanadical about the way my mackeral strips are cut! I make sure to cut each one with at the right legth and width, (between 4"-6") for the length. Width, I would say like you would cut your squid for flounder!

Ready to cast

When bucktailing in the rips, you should have atleast 3 if not 4 chances to get a bite on one drift! This also goes for eeling! One thing that I encourage my customers to do is cast forward in to the rip. This gives you a chance to catch a fish before the boat has even entered he rip. The second cast should be a diagnal cast. This will most likely be your best chance! The third cast should be casted back over the rip
and drug through it. You see three attemps at casting on one rip will give you more of a shot a catching a fish and should land you more fish on each outing!

One final thing that I would like to touch on is that it is very important that you cast on the calmer side of the rip you are fishing! The fish are waiting of the (backside/rougher) side of the rips, just waiting for your (bucktail/confused) baitfish to come over that hump! ;) So be sure to cast your bucktail about 15ft or so in front of the rip and give it time to sink. Then remember Slow,slow,slow! :D

I hope this helps anyone who had any questions. Good luck this spring to all. Catch em'up ;)

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[aimless2]

:cool: Great info, Thanks smile.gif

[NJAngler Bill]

awesome, Skip.

I'd like to add that I always try to make myself look better in the eyes of the other anglers on my boat by keeping a safe distance from both Skip and Adam Bomb. That way my friends don't realize that they're actually being outfished by another boat 3 to 1 smile.gif

[ 01-13-2004, 12:21 PM: Message edited by: NJAngler Bill ]

[striper2278]

Aimless2, Thank you, I hope it helps.


Bill, ahh come on, were not that good. It's just our second home :D

You can fish near me anytime :D ;)

[NIGHTSTRIKES]

Very Good Post Skip, Thanks For The Tips & Tricks.

[striper2278]

Originally posted by NIGHTSTRIKES:
Very Good Post Skip, Thanks For The Tips & Tricks. Strikes, thanks.

See ya at the fest! ;)

[Brian E. Mullaney]

Great post Skip - I'll gladly join you in the spring for some bucktailing smile.gif

[striper2278]

Originally posted by Brian E. Mullaney:
Great post Skip - I'll gladly join you in the spring for some bucktailing smile.gif Brian,

Come on down man! Remember to bring some of those great flies with you to barnfest! I only have a few left....The bass were loving them in the backwater and up the beach when we were jigging them! They work great! ;)

Let's get them in the spring!

[Absecon1]

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/smiley24_shades.gif

Great info Skip !

I had my eye on your M.O. thru the windshield. You stare rather intensely at the rod tip as well. When the water is warmer, upper 50s lower 60s, do you still reel super slow?

Thanx in advance.

[striper2278]

Originally posted by Absecon1:
http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/smiley24_shades.gif

Great info Skip !

I had my eye on your M.O. thru the windshield. You stare rather intensely at the rod tip as well. When the water is warmer, upper 50s lower 60s, do you still reel super slow?

Thanx in advance. Absecon 1,

Now that I think about it, I do stare at the tip of my rod. Don't I? I don't know if that helps any, but I guess it doesn't hurt ;)

When the water temps are 50-60 I still use the same speed retrieve, and it still works the same. To me stripers are a lazy fish. Think about it....They sit on the backside of structure waiting for the food to come to them. So something slower is easier to catch ;)

All this writting and talking about it is making me crazy.....Ahhhhhhh come on spring! :D

[striper2278]

Originally posted by Absecon1:
http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/smiley24_shades.gif

Great info Skip !

I had my eye on your M.O. thru the windshield. You stare rather intensely at the rod tip as well. When the water is warmer, upper 50s lower 60s, do you still reel super slow?

Thanx in advance. Absecon 1,

Now that I think about it, I do stare at the tip of my rod. Don't I? I don't know if that helps any, but I guess it doesn't hurt ;)

When the water temps are 50-60 I still use the same speed retrieve, and it still works the same. To me stripers are a lazy fish. Think about it....They sit on the backside of structure waiting for the food to come to them. So something slower is easier to catch ;)

All this writting and talking about it is making me crazy.....Ahhhhhhh come on spring! :D

[captainbadfinger]

Very informative post Captain Jastremski :D call me when you get back to Jersey.

[BIGGESTJACK]

CALL COLLECT NOW.

[VDAWG]

Skip,
some great info you put out there,awsome tactics,i think alot of people think you need a heavier bucktail in the rips,to bounce bottom,however i also fish with 1 oz. bucktails,and i also use a whie on white at times,and green on white,in the fall,and i do find that slow is almost always best,and if the bait they are chasing is big,instead of using a bigger heavier bucktail,i will bump up the size or change what its tiped with like say a zoom instead of a twister or a worm to give a bigger profile,Vinny Pastella

[capt_eds]

Great information Capt. Skip, thank you!

I continue to be amazed by the catching ability of bucktails. I used to be a store-bought rig guy, then made my own rigs. I now use bucktails for many different species with much better results. One suggestion that I'll offer is; don't give up on bucktails because you can't "feel" the bounce off the bottom in a swift current. That's one complaint I hear: "I can't tell if I'm on or near the bottom". I would suggest that you present the bucktail as stated by Skip,toss up current and give it time to sink, and your bucktail will be at or near the bottom and in the strike zone.

Come on Spring!

Capt. Ed
RFA, JCAA

[striper13]

Skip, You fail to mention that 99% of your stripers are caught on the bow of the Stalker. Can you elaborate on that technique. Surely you can't believe that the "legend" and everybody else on your charters hasn't picked up on this method of madness! Or, are you just trying to stay out of the way of customers hooking other customers (i.e. Phillies hats) :D :D .....13

[Dr. Bass]

Thanks Cap, gonna give it a try.

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[R & R]

Great info capt!!!!!!How many times have we all seen the "BIG JERKER" out fishing?I can remember fishing for tiderunners when ppl. would "work" a bucktail like they were setting the hook on a tarpon.I swore they were going to put their back out fishing that way.R&R

[striper2278]

Originally posted by striper13:
Skip, You fail to mention that 99% of your stripers are caught on the bow of the Stalker. Can you elaborate on that technique. Surely you can't believe that the "legend" and everybody else on your charters hasn't picked up on this method of madness! Or, are you just trying to stay out of the way of customers hooking other customers (i.e. Phillies hats) :D :D .....13 That's my secret spot ;) Nope you got it right Ricky. Just trying to stay out of the way! But I do well up there. Maybe this up coming year I will stay in the back more often. "To prove you wrong" LOL :D

Vdawg,

I was up to a 2oz on some days, but we seemed to do better with the 1ozon most days.

Capt. Eds,

Bucktails are an awesome lure, the seem to work when nothing else will at times. I can't wait until the spring either! ;)

Dr. Bass,

Give it a try, it works ;) Good luck!

[RodFather]

Skip thanks for taking the time to share some awesome tatics. Its not everyday that we get that from the charter guys. If I could I would like to mention one other tatic not to over look and that is the deeper, calmer water just before the rough water or the rip. A lot of times the bass will hang righ it front of the rips in the deeper water, hence the forward cast you mention would be perfect for this, thanks again.

[Dr. Bass]

I always say the B-Tail is the most under-rated, under-used lure in the box. Thanks again

[Reel-ality]

Great post, thanks.

Dave Isanski smile.gif

[Sea Devil]

thanks skip maybe i will try it in spring now whats better incoming or outgoing?? tongue.gif .... hiya snichols howya doing??? :cool:

[striper2278]

Originally posted by Sea Devil:
thanks skip maybe i will try it in spring now whats better incoming or outgoing?? tongue.gif .... hiya snichols howya doing??? :cool: Bob,

I'm a incoming guy myself! But it depends on when those fishies what to bite!

Mainly the incoming because you will have cleaner water!

[Stalker Charters]

Thanks for the tips Capt. Skip, now watch out next trip, I may use my new tips and beat you!!! :D :D :D

[mg-ville]

Skip, I've learned alot by watching and listening to you! I also believe in mackeral strips, especially in the spring for bass and fluke. I always make a trip up north for macks in the winter and prepare them the following way. I fillet them, cut off about half of the meat, salt each fillet with kosher salt,wrap each individual fillet in cellophane-about five in each piece of cellophane,and freeze them for use in the spring and summer. Bass and fluke cannot resist that long, especially white piece of mackeral attached to your bucktail.Dennis the Margaritaville

[Sea Devil]

i belive i have learned a little the last time i was out on the stalker

1 its better to fish on the bow nobody can reach ya

2 have badfinger nearby in case ya wanna tangle :D

3 fish incoming can be better than outgoing

4 bring jeremy along to take pics, cause skip forgets camera (too excited ) :D


all in good fun guys tongue.gif but really skip is da man when it comes to bucktailing i must say that :cool:

[ 01-14-2004, 08:37 AM: Message edited by: Sea Devil ]

[Get it wet]

Skip

Thanks for shareing some good stuff. I hope your next season is better then last.

[Brian E. Mullaney]

Skip is the salty version of Kevin Van Dam - THE ANIMAL - perfect nickname

[striper2278]

Originally posted by Stalker Charters:
Thanks for the tips Capt. Skip, now watch out next trip, I may use my new tips and beat you!!! :D :D :D This guy is on a vaction in Hawaii right now, and what is he doing..... posting on the BASSBARN . Ahhh, the power of the barn..lol :D

Hope your having a good time while I'm here in the cold.....you bass-turd smile.gif

[TheAdamBomb]

Good post, Skip. I can't wait for spring!

[striper2278]

Originally posted by TheAdamBomb:
Good post, Skip. I can't wait for spring! Thanks,

We have helped each other out alot down there! You already knew all of this stuff!

Good job to you! ;)

[VDAWG]

Yep Skip on those moon tides,and deeper rips,2oz.anything othe than that i dont go above 1 oz.I also witnessed Stalker in action a couple times this season,when i was aboard Treads555,rig Bunkerhead,needless to say you guys are truely a fishing machine,or should i say animals ;) rods bent on every drift one day really stands out in my mind was Thanksgiving Day,we did great that day but 2 of the guys only wanted to fish eels,you cant beat um on the head and make um fish a bucktail,if their hell bent on dead sticking an eel LOL.the other 2 guys kicked but on white on white bucktails,you guys were steady bent,looked like bucktails from where we were, :D ,Vinny Pastella

[striper13]

Jeremy, You must be smoking that Maui weed if you really think your gonna outfish your captain :D :D

[Sea Devil]

lol striper 13 lol

[phillyfisherman]

Skip:

I'm gonna need special attention tongue.gif tongue.gif ...remember how bad I sucked first time bucktailing when I went out with you, Adam and Joe?

I had the first one on, it thought it was a marlin, spit the hook and then nada the rest of the day.....while YOU guys couldn't keep them off your bucktails. :( :(

How embarrassing...... :( :(

[striper2278]

Originally posted by phillyfisherman:
Skip:

I'm gonna need special attention tongue.gif tongue.gif ...remember how bad I sucked first time bucktailing when I went out with you, Adam and Joe?

I had the first one on, it thought it was a marlin, spit the hook and then nada the rest of the day.....while YOU guys couldn't keep them off your bucktails. :( :(

How embarrassing...... :( :( Don't worry about that! Come out this spring, you'll be just fine ;) It's just all luck! smile.gif

[BBunker]

AH, Jigging with the ANIMAL! ;) CAN'T WAIT TILL SPRING SKIP! When you comming up? I've got time now if you have any toys that need work. ;)

[striper2278]

Originally posted by BBunker:
AH, Jigging with the ANIMAL! ;) CAN'T WAIT TILL SPRING SKIP! When you comming up? I've got time now if you have any toys that need work. ;) Billy,

Your never gonna guess what I'm doing. I'm going down to Morehead city to catch something bigger then me and you put together ;) :D Plus maybe a few of those peskie striped ones. If we are going, we are leaving tomorrow in the AM. Wish me luck!

Oh yeah, BBunker is the man when it comes to bucktailing! We should have called you BBucktail :D

[BBunker]

GOOD LUCK CAPPY! Get your skinny butt in that chair & HANG ON! They ain't no joke! Should have called me, I'd a gone!

[VDAWG]

Skip,Good luck im moorehead,could you Tell capt John the crew from Regina was asking for him,and the same if you run into the crew from Miss Andrea,Thanks Vinny Pastella

[striper2278]

Billy,

I would have love to have braught ya. Just got the invite yesterday myself. Maybe next time, or on my boat ;)

Vinny, will do. ;)

[striper2278]

Billy,

I would have love to have braught ya. Just got the invite yesterday myself. Maybe next time, or on my boat ;)

Vinny, will do. ;)

[captainbadfinger]

You can fight the big Stuff,I want to catch a big Bass,...WOOOHHOOO I can`t wait :D :D I will see you Friday Am,we will be on the first ferry out of here :D Maybe we can try that bucktail technique on a Bluefin :D :eek:

[Willy boy]

Yo Skip,

Great Post! I am Anxiously awaiting the spring run. You, ADAM, Joe C, and Joe W and crew really coined the phrase "Buctailing in the Cape MAy rips." Hope to be there right next you yelling "There he is." See you boys in the Spring.

WILLY BOY

[striper2278]

Will,

Thanks man! Yup, The "ADAMBOMB" crew and myself have learned alot from each other down there! I'm going to NC in the AM. But there's just something about being in the rips that just gets me evertime I go. I can't get it out of my head! It's my paridise! smile.gif :cool:

Nothing like getting that hard thump on the first cast! ;)

See ya in the spring!

[TheAdamBomb]

Stop getting me all excited! March is still two months away! I am going to go stir crazy sitting in the house thinking about a hot rip bite!

[mulldogg]

Skip,
How early in the spring do you start your bucktailing striper trips,.... what air and water temps? Thanks,

[fishin4em]

good tip capt.
i have one question though, what brand,desighn,buctail do you prefer. there are so many types

[striper2278]

Mulldog,

We start trying down there are soon as the water temps are in the lower 40's. Around 42 I'd say. Although we had our first fish last year in 41 degree water.

We will most likely be staring fishing around the second week of March...But maybe before....It really depends on the weather, witch will warm up the water temps!
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Fishin4em,

I have so many that I like. Prob my all time favorite is a Rip Spliter or some call it a Laughing Bill bucktail. You can either buy them at Kmart, in which they are made by Hurrican lures or buy them at any tackle shop in the CM area...Rich Andrus makes them around here. Also, I prefer the 1oz White!

I hope this helps you guys out, And maybe I'll see ya in the spring for some great striper action! ;)

[striper2278]

Good seeing everyone last night! Just thought I'd bump this one up again to get the blood pumping!

It was nice seeing everyone. And I had a good time! See ya all in the Spring! ;)

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[VOLKANMAN]

Thanks Skip, That's a great post with some very informative responses.....Thanks Guys....V

[striper2278]

Originally posted by VOLKANMAN:
Thanks Skip, That's a great post with some very informative responses.....Thanks Guys....V Vman,

Not a problem! Hope it helps some this upcoming season! Good luck! ;)

[Partnership]

Skip:

Thanks for starting a great post. Just want to add that fresh herring strips look awesome with a white buck and will produce in the Spring as well. Thanks again. See ya out there soon.

[striper2278]

Originally posted by Partnership:
Skip:

Thanks for starting a great post. Just want to add that fresh herring strips look awesome with a white buck and will produce in the Spring as well. Thanks again. See ya out there soon. Tom,

You know I foregot to mention that! Herring works real well when it is fresh. Also can remember a few days when we were using bunker striped out. And we really crushed'em!

Soon, but not soon enough ;) :D

[VDAWG]

Skip,what kind of line and # test ya use for bucktailing & eeling in the rips.and also what line ratings are the rods preferably used ,Vinny

[ 02-09-2004, 03:12 PM: Message edited by: VDAWG ]

[striper2278]

Originally posted by VDAWG:
Skip,what kind of line and # test ya use for bucktailing & eeling in the rips.and also what line ratings are the rods preferably used ,Vinny Vinny,

On our boats rods we use 15lb Ande clear with a 6'6" ugly stick rated for 10-20lb test. We use them for both eeling and bucktailing!

For myself, I use a 6'6" St.Croix E-glass series rod that is rated for 6-10lb test...I use 12lb Ande on it though.

For my bucktailing rod I use 12lb Ande on stiffer 7ft penn international spinning rod that is rated for12-30lb class. I like the stiff rod because I really like to set the hook hard! ;)

[VDAWG]

Sweet,thanks Skip.Vinny :D

[striper2278]

Originally posted by VDAWG:
Sweet,thanks Skip.Vinny :D Not a problem Vinny! Is it spring yet :D

[VDAWG]

almost Skip,but never fast enough :D ;) I already have 2 spooled up with 15# test but had a sneaky suspision you were going even lighter,im going to put 12# on 2 others ;) thanks again,Vinny

[striper2278]

Originally posted by VDAWG:
almost Skip,but never fast enough :D ;) I already have 2 spooled up with 15# test but had a sneaky suspision you were going even lighter,im going to put 12# on 2 others ;) thanks again,Vinny Vinny,

Use the 12lb...It casts better and is plenty heavy enough if your drag is set properly. Remember to use the 12" piece of flurocarbon..30lb

And your set ;)

[Brian E. Mullaney]

Skip - found them Andrus Bucktails at the Sportsmen Center. Got em up to 4oz - I am totally ready to do some bucktailin!!!!

[striper2278]

Originally posted by Brian E. Mullaney:
Skip - found them Andrus Bucktails at the Sportsmen Center. Got em up to 4oz - I am totally ready to do some bucktailin!!!! Did you get them from 1-4? Also the 1/2ers work well sometimes in the spring when we drift slow! ;)

[VDAWG]

Is IT SPRING YET SKIP ?????? :D :D :D ;)

[striper2278]

Just thought I'd bring this one to the top again! Is it fall yet? :D :D :D

[fatboy]

Not soon enough!!!

[BBunker]

I'm gettin a twitch in my right hand just readin this! And "DON'T GO THERE! :eek: I know what things have been like around here lately! ;)

[BIGGESTJACK]

THIS IS A GREAT THREAD.

[clamchucker]

Outstanding post, Capt Skip! Thanks for bringing back some memories of fishing the Cape May rips years ago. Using cannon balls with a tandom hook(white w/yellow tipped with squid), cleaned up on weakfish using same SLOW drag on the bottom. Crab/chunk drifting movement, when you felt some weight (no hits so to speak) you dug into a tiderunner (9 lbs +). Only problem was getting them to the net (light drags) before all you had was a head with one large cressent shaped wound just behind the gill plates. Bucktails....believe in them. smile.gif

[striper2278]

Thanks guys!

I love dem stripers! I can't wait for the fall! Although we have been knocking them dead the last few night in the backwater on poppers, which is my sencond favorite way to catch them :D

[THE ENFORCER]

Skip, YTM(YOUR THE MAN)My first day on the water every year is on the Stalker with Skip. Last year he put me on to 7,this year he put me on to 8 in the rips with bucktail.Thanks for the tip on preparing the mackeral.

[VDAWG]

Skip if there were one striper in the Bay..you would find it and catch it ;) i really belive this :D :D Vinny

[striper2278]

Awww,

Thanks guys!

Ya just gotta think like a striper ;)

[striper2278]

Figure I'd bump this to the top since the best time of the year for bucktailing is near us! Get out and get'em!

[Sea Devil]

where are they??? :D

[striper2278]

Down there! ;)

[fishkid01]

Skip....Great tips......One thing is for sure...They haven't changed, nor will they. Talk to you and Adam tomorrow.

Sean

[Sea Devil]

i dunno been a week i dont see any ... when we goin agin skip??

[fran]

Skip,Thanx !! for caring enough to share. smile.gif :cool:

[scootz723]

excellent info fellas thanks alot!!!

[Don Shumski]

Captain,
Great report on the proceduresand the price was right. If I were you, I would prepare an article, such as what you did, and forward same to the various publications.

Perhaps you will get some advertising.

I mean, you already did the work,. Why not get some advertising.

[sunnydaze]

Great post. Thanks.

[VDAWG]

ahhh December,
i remember last year having a few days, catching 30 ft. infront of the first rip line they were comming out snappin at anything that moved infront of um

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[MAKO19]

Skip awesome tips thanks a lot! I guess I wasn't the only one curious about this magical method I was unaware of my last couple trips. I took the advice you gave me in the e-mail and managed 5 fish on our next trip all on the white Andrus 1.5 oz with green twisty tail worm. I do have another question. We weren't retrieveing the bucktails at all. I would pull up and prepare to enter the rip with the bucktails on the bottom and just slowly pop them off the bottom as we drifted through the rip. I would say our drift was between 1-1.5 knots, is this to slow? You seemed to stress "slow" and I figured if I were to retrieve the bucktail while drifting 1.5 knots it would have been going to fast. Your thoughts?
Another thing, why are you guys wishing for spring to get here so fast? I know warm weather but the bass bite is still on out there. Skip are you heading out tomarrow? We are, keep your eyes peeled for a Grady CC with T-top and riggers if you are in the area.

[striper2278]

MAKO,

1.5 knts is perfect...When drifting that slow I like retrieve the bucktail! When drifting any faster, I feel that just a drag through the rip gets the job done! I really don't "pop" them at all...Just a "slow" steady retrieve usually triggers a bite. Also sometimes just a speed up of the retrieve then back to slow will get ya a bite! One thing I noticed...when you said you were using a 1-1/2oz....Try to use as light as possible as far as weight size on your bucktails...I have been catching on as low as 1/2oz some days...but mostly on 1oz...never really 1-1/2oz! Might make a difference? Also...I love December! It's my favorite time of the season! Most boats are being pulled...which means more room for me in the Rips! :D

[GRABENFISH]

Skip,
Good advise, been doing this for years and IT WORKS!
Bob

[JoeBlack]

Killer Birbiglia advice! :D :D tongue.gif

[bucktailbob]

skip you must have posted this because i have asked you so many times. see you saturday.

[bucktailbob]

my stepson went out on a party boat monday. i won't mention which one but it is not a mrs. anyway he said that i go out with you and have always had a good time. they didn't have many nice things to say. must be jealous because someone can fish those rips and is not reluctant to let others know what to do. i have been out with you and you and what you say i have seen. see you on 12/04 with Steve.

[striper2278]

Originally posted by bucktailbob:
my stepson went out on a party boat monday. i won't mention which one but it is not a mrs. anyway he said that i go out with you and have always had a good time. they didn't have many nice things to say. must be jealous because someone can fish those rips and is not reluctant to let others know what to do. i have been out with you and you and what you say i have seen. see you on 12/04 with Steve. LOL,
Must be Bob...If they were cool...I'd most likely help them out! Had one of them next to me this afternoon...About a 1/4 away...we were bailing them...and didn't see their net go over at all...I know they have been talking Sh*t on me :eek: ...That's why my radio was silent! Thanks for the heads up...and see ya soon! smile.gif

[Ron Redington]

Originally posted by NJAngler Bill:

I'd like to add that I always try to make myself look better in the eyes of the other anglers on my boat by keeping a safe distance from both Skip and Adam Bomb. Bill, It's funny you should say that! A couple weeks ago Tommy Guns called me on the VHF and said he was fishing next to Adam & Skip in the Rips. He told me he was doing "ok" but Adam and Skip were bailing'em!

My advice to Tommy was to keep as far away from the two of them as possible. What you don't see wont hurt ya. Until ya read the report on the BARN of course...LOL!

Good stuff Skip!

Thank you smile.gif

[ 12-01-2004, 11:31 AM: Message edited by: Ron Redington ]

[JoeBlack]

Please turn off cell phones and vhf radios.

shhhsssh, silence is golden.

[striper2278]

Ron,

Not a problem at all! Any way I can help out! smile.gif

[MAKO19]

I have just a few more questions for ya Skip. When you say cast on the calmer side you mean before the rip right? I would cast about 10' before the rip we were drifting into and the current would get a-hold of the bucktail and sort of suck it into the rip. Then when it would hit the bottom I would start my slow retrieve and feel the RATTY TAT TAT, and I was hooked up! I was always under the impression that the fish hang just on the other side of the rip line in the turbulent water. Is this correct, or do they hang on the calmer side (side before the rip line)?

My last question is, I don't hear to much about people targeting Stripers in the spring. At least not as much as they do in the Winter. When would you say the best time of the year is to fish for em' Spring or Fall? Is the bite just as hot in the Spring?

[striper2278]

Mako,

When you say cast on the calmer side you mean before the rip right? Yes...And sometimes 10ft,,,but sometimes when the tide is moving slow..I cast right on the line! But son't let any line out and soon as the lure hits the water...the boat moving forward allows the bucktail to sink to the bottom...by soing this...you are in the strike zone for about 10 or more seconds! 50% of my bites are this way!

I was always under the impression that the fish hang just on the other side of the rip line in the turbulent water. Is this correct, or do they hang on the calmer side (side before the rip line)?
For the most part they do hang on the other side of the rip! But again, that tide is moving so fast that by giving yourself that little extra time in the strike zone...You could easily increase your catch! Sometimes by doing this...you can catch 2 or 3 fish in one drift just yourself!

When would you say the best time of the year is to fish for em' Spring or Fall? Is the bite just as hot in the Spring? I personally like the spring...Maybe because the winter has just passed and I'm ready to fish...Or maybe alot of people don't realize that the there are stripers to be caught in the spring! (Not as many boats) ;) I wouldn't say that it is as good as the fall...But there have been a few days where I could compare sheer #'s to the fall! So my anwser to your question is...I believe that the fall fishing may be a tad better...But I enjoy the spring fishing more! Hope this helps! ;)

[ 12-13-2004, 11:46 AM: Message edited by: striper2278 ]

[MAKO19]

Roger that Skip. Thanks again for the help ;) ! See you in the rips this Spring.

[striper2278]

Originally posted by MAKO19:
Roger that Skip. Thanks again for the help ;) ! See you in the rips this Spring. Mako,

Oops my mistake...From reading something in another thread that I missed and just found a few minutes ago...There is no way to catch 2-3 bass in one drift! So I guess it can't be done! :rolleyes: ;)

[MAKO19]

Skip, am I sensing a little sarcasm here? It sounds do-able to me.

[striper2278]

Get ready...

The time is near!

[Striper101]

Originally posted by striper2278:
Get ready...

The time is near! Skip,
How the heck I missed this thread I have no idea!
But Bucktailing is my favorite way of catching! Down the rips up the Vineyard, bucktails outfish eels almost everytime!
Looking forward to fishing along side of you guys again!

SOON SOON!!!!!

[ 10-03-2005, 09:15 AM: Message edited by: Striper101 ]

[YoungGun24]

Bucktailed the rips on Saturday and had fun catching lots of 2-3lb blues. Two more weeks or so and our striped friends will show up.

[phillyfisherman]

SeaCaper and I were planning a run to a spot on Saturday but looks like the weather gods are going to pitch a rain out. http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons4u/mad/1018.gif

[striper2278]

Paul,

My favorite way as well! I'll see ya out there...and soon hopefully!

YoungGun,

2 weeks should be about right!

Jim,

Are ya gonna melt? :D

[Partnership]

Skip- this is one of my favorite all-time posts on The Barn. Thanks for bringing it back- it always makes a good read. Just so you know- I hope to use my deposit from our cancelled Spring trip for a 1st hand lesson this Fall.

[striper2278]

Sounds great Tommy! Can't wait!

[phillyfishing]

hey when you do this do you let the rig hit bottom or just real it in slow when you cast it out....

[TheAdamBomb]

COME ON STRIPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[striper2278]

Originally posted by phillyfishing:
hey when you do this do you let the rig hit bottom or just real it in slow when you cast it out.... The rips are a very shallow area! I do let it get to the bottom, and 95% of the bites do come from the bottom! But it doesn't take much to get there! 1oz is all you will need! ;)

[phillyfishing]

so you jig it off the bottom then cool thanks for the tip

[MAKO19]

Yes, I agree that this is definitely one of...if not the best thread on the barn. We have been targeting Stripers in the rips for probably about 4 yrs now and last year was the first year we really started hammering them thanks to Skip and Adam's bucktailing tips. These guys are top notch in my book for letting us in on all of these great tips, THANKS AGAIN GUYS! maybe one day I will get a chance to return the favor and help you guys get on some fish. But something tells me you won't need me for that.
See ya in the suds!

[DaPlumber]

Hey Skip thanks for taking the time to educate .

[striper2278]

Originally posted by phillyfishing:
so you jig it off the bottom then cool thanks for the tip You can jig....personally I don't! I just keep the tip of my rod in an upward position and crank the reel slow! It will get the job done!

Thanks everyone! I read back over this topic and can't believe this acutally came out of me! I sucked in school...maybe I should have been a writer instead? :confused: :D

[ 10-06-2005, 05:58 PM: Message edited by: striper2278 ]

[Sea Devil]

hey skip i want to say hope to see you soon we need a repeat of last season but with some striped ones :D :D tongue.gif ;)

[ 10-06-2005, 11:40 PM: Message edited by: Sea Devil ]

[striper2278]

Originally posted by Sea Devil:
hey skip i want to say hope to see you soon we need a repeat of last season but with some striped ones :D :D tongue.gif ;) LOL,

And we didn't even get skunked! :D

[cisco651]

Awesome post. Thank you for taking the time to share..

Bruce

[bass ackwards]

this is a stupid question but what is a rip, i prob fish them all the time but just dont know the lingo.

[striper2278]

A "Rip" is a change in the bottom which actually causes a standing rip tide or line! A continous crashing wave in one spot! Which dumps confused baitfish over itself and stripers await on the other side!

[bass ackwards]

thanks, i thought it was the something similar to a rip tide at the beach

[OneMoreDrift]

Capt Skip, In all seriousness have you ever thought of writing a "how to" book regarding Stripers? Your explanations/knowlege and writing are very good. The front cover could have you in that cool lookin hat ya wear! tongue.gif :D

[striper2278]

OMD,

Might have to start writting during the winter months. Will give me something to do! And thanks...Hope something might give you some help while your out there!

[sjb saxatilis]

the post that will not die!!!, cause it's a good one! See ya in about 3 weeks dude, then two weeks after that, and two weeks after dat!!!, maybe more.

Bring on the bass...sjb

[thundercock]

skip, i really enjoyed this post back then and it's nice to read again. You are the one who i owe my striper fishing success to. I thought i new how to fish, then i met you. You have turned out to be a good friend too. I am a beter man for knowing you. looking forward to a good year fishing. your friend, john burkle

[striper2278]

Awww,

Thanks Johnny!

Your da man!

Your bud

Skip :D

[MAKO19]

Yeah I agree Skip maybe write some articles for the Fisherman magazine to get started. I did that and it was fun!! Finally got a chance to use all those writing skills I learned in college that I thought were BS. Get in touch with Jim Hutchinson Jr. he is HutchJr. here on the barn. I worked with him when writing my article he is a stand up guy!

See ya in the suds!

[striper2278]

Thanks Mako!

Might give it a try! ;)

[striper2278]

Originally posted by bass ackwards:
thanks, i thought it was the something similar to a rip tide at the beach No problem! ;)

[indeep]

g wiz!

[striper2278]

Originally posted by indeep:
g wiz! Bet you learned something!

Hey everyone...Didn't you all know that stripers were here already? :confused: :D

Jackass! tongue.gif

[mako]

Skip

I ran into some dude Captain Bad Finger in Sea Gear the other day. Says you couldn't catch your own a$$ with both hands....... :D

I'll see you around Snug in the near future.....

Great post by the way ;)

[The real Clamman]

Smilin Bills tipped with Uncle Josh # 70 "always" !

Skip game on up here :D


Art

[ 10-11-2005, 04:28 PM: Message edited by: The real Clamman ]

[striper2278]

Originally posted by The real Clamman:

Skip game on up here :D


Art Lucky Bassterds! :D

[The real Clamman]

Originally posted by striper2278:
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Skip game on up here :D


Art Lucky Bassterds! :D </font>[/QUOTE]Tried something new last night ! Smilin Bills tipped with Stinky Clams :D

Art

[striper2278]

Anything?

[reelinron]

Great post, the first time I fished the rips on a charter everyone used eels. I had a bucktail ties on a second rod and I asked the mate if the bucktail would work. He said No, too much bait in the water. :confused: :confused:

[striper2278]

Originally posted by reelinron:
Great post, the first time I fished the rips on a charter everyone used eels. I had a bucktail ties on a second rod and I asked the mate if the bucktail would work. He said No, too much bait in the water. :confused: :confused: ???

You should have said...aren't eels bait! :D

Next time they say no..use one anyway! ;)

[Moe]

Skip do you use a barrel swivel and shock leader(fluro) or tie the bucktail directly to your line. Great post thanks for the info.

[striper2278]

Moe,

We use a 75lb barrel swivel with about 12"-18" shot of 30lb flurocarbon. And no problem..hope it helps!

[reelinron]

What knot to the bucktail? loop or tied tight?

[striper2278]

Either will work! But I personally use a loop knot! ;)

[MAKO19]

Ahh a few more tips good deal. We were tying direct via palomar, but I guess it would be nice to have the 30# leader when that big boy comes through....oh wait that can't happen because big fish don't eat bucktails :D tongue.gif ! It's gonna look so awesome with all these barners lined up on the first rip line casting into the rip with rod tips jigging from Prissy to Overfalls and beyond. Can't wait guys!
This thread is golden!

[Moe]

Thanks again

[Brian E. Mullaney]

its time smile.gif

[amber lee]

You guys are forgetting the proper techniques for wrapping the bucktails around the outriggers, do they make a hook remover for this, I believe it's called a knife? I love our sportfisherman but I do miss the days of being out on the bow of our cc mako. Great post with some great information.

[striper2278]

Bump! Man, I reread this and it bring back alot of good times! I remember when I used Mono for bucktailing...lol


Hope it helps.

[Jeff - Fazmataz]

Awesome post...thanks again! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[sjb saxatilis]

an oldie but goody.....2004 holy cow....I was just a young buck back then:D

[maintainerman69]

I have never tried bucktails in the rips, I just didn't know how. Thanks for all the expert information capt. Skip!

[sjb saxatilis]

the ol bucktail worked pretty damn good in the rips today!!!!!

[BILLO]

Right ON Skip! Did Donny teach you all there is to know about bucktailing the rips?-only kidding! Just wanted to add about the SLOW factor. It's so hard to be slow enough most times -with your adrenalin out of control when there is a bite on--barely reel - 2 - 4 cranks reel slow cranks--reel in the slack and repeat with a small jerk when the line gets tight again. So slow in fact-that i caught my 1st keeper on the Miss Cape May -December 1991- It was so COLD that day I dead-sticked a Plain Red+White 1 3/4 oz bucktail - The up+down movement of the boat was all the speed that was needed. Caught a 27 inch TB the drift before my keeper - As Donny was yelling at me and telling the others on the boat that you need to work the bucktail and not to just dead-stick. Still remember his expression and cussing to himself when I then caught my 1st ever keeper on the NEXT drift dead-sticking again after he told everyone on board not to do what i was doing. Great trip-and many more great times after that with Donny at the helm!
Bottom Line -- SLOW is always better-especially when the water is cold --the Stripers are slower to hit the colder the water.

[fishanuk]

Great insight on your initial post. Thanks, very informative like Capt. Harv's are!:thumbsup:

[sjb saxatilis]

Billo - slow slow slow...yes indeed, worked real well for me yesterday in the rips.....super slow retrieve on that bucky....up over the rip and back down the other side....slow, slow, slow and then BAM!!!!! caught well over 20 bass yesterday using that technique.....:thumbsup::D...and its goona taste real good!

[striper2278]

Bump...... Just incase you missed this! It's getting near that time again!

[Byter]

Ha! I didn't even notice the dates even though I saw Bill's post (NJAngler) and thinking, "are they still publishing?". Thanks Skip, saw you down at DelJerseyland once this summer. Beautiful boat.

[striper2278]

Ha! I didn't even notice the dates even though I saw Bill's post (NJAngler) and thinking, "are they still publishing?". Thanks Skip, saw you down at DelJerseyland once this summer. Beautiful boat.
Thank you and I do remember seeing you here as well:wave: