whats your herring alternative going to be?

[rob]

I believe I read somewhere that Herring bought at certain locations can be used but you will be required to carry the receipt to prove purchase.

http://njfishandwildlife.com/news/20...ring_close.htm

In order to comply with the required fishery closure for migratory herring, while still allowing landlocked fisheries to remain open the Fish and Game Council in coordination with the Division of Fish and Wildlife, has adopted the following:

1. The possession, take, attempt to take, sale or purchase of alewife or blueback herring from any freshwater stream or river is prohibited.
2. Up to ten alewife or blueback herring, no greater than six inches in length, may be taken for personal use, from freshwater lakes in Morris, Passaic, Sussex, and Warren counties, and from Spruce Run Reservoir, located in Hunterdon County. Landlocked herring taken from lakes within these counties may only be used on the lake from which they were taken. Any unused herring must be returned to the waterbody upon the conclusion of the angler's fishing trip. They may not be transported away from the shoreline of the lake by any mechanism. They may not be sold.
3. For all other freshwater lakes, regardless of ownership (public or private) only purchased herring, no greater than six inches in length, may be possessed for up to seven days from date of purchase, when accompanied by a receipt. The receipt must list the name, address and telephone number of the place of purchase, date of purchase, and quantity purchased. This receipt must be without erasures or alterations of any kind and must have a control number.

[waderman]

I know fishing for herring is now illegal . Anyone have any idea if you can use frozen from last year? I know I can tell the difference but does anyone know if theres anything in the regs. that would state that you can't use frozen chunks?

That would be possession, & therefore illegal, per:


1. The possession, take, attempt to take, sale or purchase of alewife or blueback herring from any freshwater stream or river is prohibited.

[BillyBadBass]

Thanks for clearing that up Rob.

[rob]

Thanks for clearing that up Rob.

Unless there is something else written... it seems there is a loophole in using herring along the coast.

"3. For all other freshwater lakes, regardless of ownership (public or private) only purchased herring, no greater than six inches in length, may be possessed for up to seven days from date of purchase, when accompanied by a receipt. The receipt must list the name, address and telephone number of the place of purchase, date of purchase, and quantity purchased. This receipt must be without erasures or alterations of any kind and must have a control number. "

This doesn't say one can't purchase herring 6" or less and use those away from the shoreline of a freshwater lake. Hence, I suppose you could purchase those herring and fish them along the coastal areas up to 7 days after purchase?

[PhillyJT]

I'm gonna use sea herring caught off the bridges in SJ or bloodworms.

[waderman]

Unless there is something else written... it seems there is a loophole in using herring along the coast.

"3. For all other freshwater lakes, regardless of ownership (public or private) only purchased herring, no greater than six inches in length, may be possessed for up to seven days from date of purchase, when accompanied by a receipt. The receipt must list the name, address and telephone number of the place of purchase, date of purchase, and quantity purchased. This receipt must be without erasures or alterations of any kind and must have a control number. "

This doesn't say one can't purchase herring 6" or less and use those away from the shoreline of a freshwater lake. Hence, I suppose you could purchase those herring and fish them along the coastal areas up to 7 days after purchase?

No there is no loophole. The above, is for freshwater only.

In marine waters you cannot possess herring:


"Effective immediately, no person shall take, possess, land, purchase, sell or offer for sale any river herring (alewife and blueback) in the marine waters of the State. Only commercial vessels fishing exclusively in Federal waters while operating a valid Federal permit for Atlantic mackerel and/or Atlantic herring may possess river herring, up to a maximum of five percent by weight of all species possessed."

[stevetheteacher]

Ask Harry's what they're recommending. (I can't say.)

[Chris Gatley]

No there is no loophole. The above, is for freshwater only.

In marine waters you cannot possess herring:


"Effective immediately, no person shall take, possess, land, purchase, sell or offer for sale any river herring (alewife and blueback) in the marine waters of the State. Only commercial vessels fishing exclusively in Federal waters while operating a valid Federal permit for Atlantic mackerel and/or Atlantic herring may possess river herring, up to a maximum of five percent by weight of all species possessed."

What He Said! Why try to skirt the law, it will only catch up to you. It is done, I guess we have to be thankful for the last few years. Keep in mind that we had the herring fishery for several years after the regulations changed in other states. And, NJ F&W helped keep it open as long as it has been open.

[n2o]

How about not using live bait at all ? Seems simple enough. Plenty of artificials on the market .

[DaveC]

Can't use trout either, folks. Unless you buy them. You cannot catch a trout and hook it as bait. At least in NJ. Same rules apply. You have to have a receipt for purchased trout.

[waderman]

Can't use trout either, folks. Unless you buy them. You cannot catch a trout and hook it as bait. At least in NJ. Same rules apply. You have to have a receipt for purchased trout.

Not true.

If you have a trout stamp,....abide by the creel limit & size limit, you can do anything you want with your trout.

Anglers on the Manasquan River, catch their limit of trout, keep them alive & live line them for stripers in marine waters.

If you have over your limit, +/or they are undersized trout, you need a receipt for those.

[Joseph Lamberty]

Krockadile metals make a good alterative for herring, trolled, or casted in the bay, however when the water temperatures are high enough for bass to actively chase a fast moving Krock, those racer blues are also all over the bay too. Which isn't a bad thing because these blues are the only ones I'll eat all season.

[rob]

Krockadile metals make a good alterative for herring, trolled, or casted in the bay, however when the water temperatures are high enough for bass to actively chase a fast moving Krock, those racer blues are also all over the bay too. Which isn't a bad thing because these blues are the only ones I'll eat all season.

true'dat!

[DaveC]

Not true.

If you have a trout stamp,....abide by the creel limit & size limit, you can do anything you want with your trout.

Anglers on the Manasquan River, catch their limit of trout, keep them alive & live line them for stripers in marine waters.

If you have over your limit, +/or they are undersized trout, you need a receipt for those.

They are breaking the law. I contacted fish and game and was told by a conservation officer that in order to use any trout as bait, in NJ waters they must be purchased from an approved vendor and you must have a signed and dated receipt on your person and that you cannot use fish that you caught from that lake as bait. Call this number if you have a question. 908-735-8240

[RyanF]

I have to agree with DaveC as I recall reading that on many occassions in the PA and NJ publications.

Another common misconception is that because some anglers do something, that it is therefore legal.

Should be verfied with NJF&W. People take too much they read online as gospel, and telling the CO that you read it on the BassBarn or saw another guy doing it is hardly a legit excuse.

RyanF