Freshwater guys ever center pin?

[2dogs]

Is the reel one that you turn 90 degrees to cast? I think Alvey makes them. Then they are rotated back to crank the line in?

I have caught steelhead on noodle rods I built with a Shakespeare 1810 reel, 6 pound running line and 2 pound leaders in the gin clear AuSable and Manistee rivers in Michigan. What a great experience and fishery.

Downtown Grand Rapids has a steelhead run. The fish come up to the coffer dam. At lunch you see guys in suits come out, slip on waders and go fish. WHat a way to spend your lunch hour..

[Ol'DirtyCaster]

I have caught steelhead on noodle rods I built with a Shakespeare 1810 reel, 6 pound running line and 2 pound leaders in the gin clear AuSable and Manistee rivers in Michigan. What a great experience and fishery.

That's a very unique fishery. My Father, my Uncle, and myself Stay in Hart, Mich. and fish the Marquette, the Pentwater, and the Little Manistee river in the spring and fall. It isn't what it used to be, and the last few years I've stayed home and done the tarpon/cobia thing instead.

[AllMyne]

Well took it out on the stream for the week. Casting took about a day to get the casting down. Rigging was interesting also. After a few hours of cursing got into some trout. I like it for a different way to fish. Killed the trout on sulphurs in the evening and some tricos in the morning. All said and done its a great set up for trout and steelies a good gift from the wife. Just won't be storing it in the same room as my bamboo fly rods.

[2dogs]

That's a very unique fishery. My Father, my Uncle, and myself Stay in Hart, Mich. and fish the Marquette, the Pentwater, and the Little Manistee river in the spring and fall. It isn't what it used to be, and the last few years I've stayed home and done the tarpon/cobia thing instead.

I haven't been up there in 20 years. All my steelheading was done in the winter when it's cold as hell. I was working in Detroit at the time and joined Metro West Steelheaders. Those guys taught me well. Love the little Manistee!!

[FGS III]

Not a statement to illustrate bravado, nor a statement indicating I'm "holier than thou" simply a statement of fact. I'll not list my angling credentials aquired over the last 50 years. Let it suffice to say, after that many years of fishing, I ended up fly fishing for one reason, the challenge.

Jeez....calm down sport How about that...no apology after you royally messed up. It's OK though, I'm glad I could bring out your true colors.

Thank you for adding more proof to the pudding too.....so much proof that there is more proof in the pudding than there is pudding. I like how you give yourself the thumbs up icon....that's about as pompous as it gets.....and you did it two times in a row....priceless Now where is that "smoke blowing up your own arse" icon.....hmmmm.

I guess you haven't figured out that one of the main reasons that alot of people that used to post here, don't any more because of you and your "holier than thou" attitude.

By the way, I did a little checking around and I don't think your paid up for your advertisement in your signature.

Cheers!!

P.S. There are plenty of other angling methods that are more challenging than fly fishing. Some methods don't even use a rod or a reel. Maybe they are too challenging for you to acknowledge though. Oh..wait a minute .....shoot...... that's right.....if you acknowledged those other methods then that would mean your "wrong." We can't have that now can we. That would be like apologizing.

[FGS III]

Well took it out on the stream for the week. Casting took about a day to get the casting down. Rigging was interesting also. After a few hours of cursing got into some trout. I like it for a different way to fish. Killed the trout on sulphurs in the evening and some tricos in the morning. All said and done its a great set up for trout and steelies a good gift from the wife. Just won't be storing it in the same room as my bamboo fly rods.

That is great to hear It makes me very happy to know that there are well rounded fisherman out there who are willing to try other methods because they are new or different from what they already know.

Love the last line too!! That's great

[Narragansett]

Jeez....calm down sport How about that...no apology after you royally messed up. It's OK though, I'm glad I could bring out your true colors.

Thank you for adding more proof to the pudding too.....so much proof that there is more proof in the pudding than there is pudding. I like how you give yourself the thumbs up icon....that's about as pompous as it gets.....and you did it two times in a row....priceless Now where is that "smoke blowing up your own arse" icon.....hmmmm.

I guess you haven't figured out that one of the main reasons that alot of people that used to post here, don't any more because of you and your "holier than thou" attitude.

By the way, I did a little checking around and I don't think your paid up for your advertisement in your signature.

Cheers!!

P.S. There are plenty of other angling methods that are more challenging than fly fishing. Some methods don't even use a rod or a reel. Maybe they are too challenging for you to acknowledge though. Oh..wait a minute .....shoot...... that's right.....if you acknowledged those other methods then that would mean your "wrong." We can't have that now can we. That would be like apologizing.

Oh Dear, looks like some saber rattling here, and nothing that I want to get involved in. However, I would take issue with the P.S. part of the comment that says there are other angling methods more challenging than fly fishing. I am always up for something new( that works), and I would like to hear them. When you play golf, par is 72, when you shoot trap or skeet, par is 100, in flyfishing I consider casting 110 feet of fly line to be par. I used to play bogey golf( no par there), I have run 100 in trap, many times( that is par), but I still have not mastered the difficulty in getting 110 feet of flyline out yet. I have fished with everything from a noodle rod to a hand line, and I consider fly fishing to be one heck of a challenge.

[Flyguy784]

Jeez....calm down sport How about that...no apology after you royally messed up. It's OK though, I'm glad I could bring out your true colors.

Thank you for adding more proof to the pudding too.....so much proof that there is more proof in the pudding than there is pudding. I like how you give yourself the thumbs up icon....that's about as pompous as it gets.....and you did it two times in a row....priceless Now where is that "smoke blowing up your own arse" icon.....hmmmm.

I guess you haven't figured out that one of the main reasons that alot of people that used to post here, don't any more because of you and your "holier than thou" attitude.

By the way, I did a little checking around and I don't think your paid up for your advertisement in your signature.

Cheers!!

P.S. There are plenty of other angling methods that are more challenging than fly fishing. Some methods don't even use a rod or a reel. Maybe they are too challenging for you to acknowledge though. Oh..wait a minute .....shoot...... that's right.....if you acknowledged those other methods then that would mean your "wrong." We can't have that now can we. That would be like apologizing.

I'm pretty sure you need to get a life there sport. You did a little checking around did ya ? Sounds like you have way too much time on your hands.

I am however flattered that you're so interested in me. Everyone needs a hobby and I love having fans. If there's anything that your "checking around" didn't answer for you, just ask. I'd be happy to inform you of said things. If you give me your mailing address I'd be pleased to send you an autographed photo to hang in your room. Just let me know.

I do however disagree as to why so many people no longer post on this particular forum, but I would wouldn't I ?

[chromedome]

Pompous flyguys blow...

Centerpin fishing is super effective and almost as easy as using a jig on a fly rod but thats more acceptable.


These threads suck.

[Flyguy784]

Pompous flyguys blow...

Centerpin fishing is super effective and almost as easy as using a jig on a fly rod but thats more acceptable.


These threads suck.

These threads don't suck. They're alot of fun. It's interesting, you post the above and then say, "these posts suck". I don't quite get that.

I've an idea, let's all stop the pissing contest and get back to what the Fly Fishing Forum used to be, back say 2,000 posts ago. You guys that have just come into the forum a year ago, with a handful of posts, should go back a couple years and review what this forum was all about. It was all about helping each other out. New fly patterns, leader construction, line choices, techniques and locations. I can't tell you how many guys came in not knowing anything and having a dozen regulars helping them for a year. Shame it's turned into what it is now.

[FGS III]

Well just got a center pinning combo for trout and steelies, anyone ever try it? heading out this weekend to give it a shot.

Yup I've tried it for trout with a buddy who had an extra set-up I used for the afternoon. It was quite interesting and enjoyable, although casting took a little while to learn. Once I got the casting down to a satisfactory level and was able to manage the free spool and control the speed of the drift, it was a lot of fun and a nice change of pace.

Even though I love to use a spey rod, I will be giving it a try for steelhead this year. I bet the casting will be a little more difficult, but it will be well worth it when the float drops for the first time.

The reason I tried centerpinning is that I think it's good to at least try other methods and gain an appreciation for those tactics. You make new friends along the way and find that there is more common ground between yourselves then originally thought. Plus, why be a one trick pony?

[FGS III]

Oh Dear, looks like some saber rattling here, and nothing that I want to get involved in. However, I would take issue with the P.S. part of the comment that says there are other angling methods more challenging than fly fishing. I am always up for something new( that works), and I would like to hear them. When you play golf, par is 72, when you shoot trap or skeet, par is 100, in flyfishing I consider casting 110 feet of fly line to be par. I used to play bogey golf( no par there), I have run 100 in trap, many times( that is par), but I still have not mastered the difficulty in getting 110 feet of flyline out yet. I have fished with everything from a noodle rod to a hand line, and I consider fly fishing to be one heck of a challenge.

Nah no sabers needed. Just a difference of opinion. I shouldn't have followed up with the my second remark in my second response to this thread. However I feel there was no reason for John to shoot from the hip without getting the facts straight first. I think everybody can agree on that.

I'm not one of the people who thinks fishing is a sport. One of the main things in sports is winning and losing, being par or better, etc... I sure don't think the fish on the other end of the line thinks it is a sport since it doesn't know what is going to happen next so it is fighting for it's life.

Casting 110ft is definitely a challenge and if that is the par/goal you have set for yourself, that is great, but I think casting for distance should kept to casting competitions. Are there times in real life fishing scenarios where that length of cast needs to be made? I'm sure there is but I don't believe that is the norm.

As far as other fishing methods that are more challenging than fly fishing, I think that hand lining or hand fishing is more of a challenge since there is no rod to flex when casting and there is no reel involved, just a spool of line. There is also a difference between "modern day" line and making your own line out of silk gut, horse hair, or another type of natural material.

The point I am trying to make is that there are primitive methods that people used to use and don't any more since new technology has made things easier and less challenging for us.

[FGS III]

Is the reel one that you turn 90 degrees to cast? I think Alvey makes them. Then they are rotated back to crank the line in?

I have caught steelhead on noodle rods I built with a Shakespeare 1810 reel, 6 pound running line and 2 pound leaders in the gin clear AuSable and Manistee rivers in Michigan. What a great experience and fishery.

Downtown Grand Rapids has a steelhead run. The fish come up to the coffer dam. At lunch you see guys in suits come out, slip on waders and go fish. WHat a way to spend your lunch hour..

No the reel doesn't turn 90 degrees like the Alvey. The line comes off the side then you have to manage the line coming off the side of the spool with your fingers. It's almost like opening the bail on a spinning reel, holding the line in your other hand, then flip it out. Problem is that if you let go of the line like you would with a spinning reel, the line will stop coming of the side of the centerpin reel, the spool keeps spinning and you get nice birdsnest.

[FGS III]

These threads don't suck. They're alot of fun. It's interesting, you post the above and then say, "these posts suck". I don't quite get that.

I've an idea, let's all stop the pissing contest and get back to what the Fly Fishing Forum used to be, back say 2,000 posts ago. You guys that have just come into the forum a year ago, with a handful of posts, should go back a couple years and review what this forum was all about. It was all about helping each other out. New fly patterns, leader construction, line choices, techniques and locations. I can't tell you how many guys came in not knowing anything and having a dozen regulars helping them for a year. Shame it's turned into what it is now.

I've been here just as long as you John. Sorry my post count isn't high enough and I didn't sign up when you chose to sign on.

Frank G. Swarner III
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Downingtown, PA 19335
484-888-6674

[Narragansett]

Nah no sabers needed. Just a difference of opinion. I shouldn't have followed up with the my second remark in my second response to this thread. However I feel there was no reason for John to shoot from the hip without getting the facts straight first. I think everybody can agree on that.

I'm not one of the people who thinks fishing is a sport. One of the main things in sports is winning and losing, being par or better, etc... I sure don't think the fish on the other end of the line thinks it is a sport since it doesn't know what is going to happen next so it is fighting for it's life.

Casting 110ft is definitely a challenge and if that is the par/goal you have set for yourself, that is great, but I think casting for distance should kept to casting competitions. Are there times in real life fishing scenarios where that length of cast needs to be made? I'm sure there is but I don't believe that is the norm.

As far as other fishing methods that are more challenging than fly fishing, I think that hand lining or hand fishing is more of a challenge since there is no rod to flex when casting and there is no reel involved, just a spool of line. There is also a difference between "modern day" line and making your own line out of silk gut, horse hair, or another type of natural material.

The point I am trying to make is that there are primitive methods that people used to use and don't any more since new technology has made things easier and less challenging for us.

You are no doubt right on the casting. Hero casts are really not needed, but it is nice to know that you have acquired the skill, then you can do what is needed