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    Default What's really killing our fish?

    I know we have talked about this before. I just didn't know how big of a problem it was!

    Regulators plan to push industries to upgrade cooling systems

    January 14, 2007, 2:33 PM EST

    WILMINGTON, Del. (AP) _ State regulators plan to push for expensive changes to the cooling systems for a few industrial sites along the Delaware River, which are blamed for killing tens of billions of aquatic organisms each year.

    Alarming studies in recent years have provided environmental groups with ammunition to push for changes to the cooling systems, which continuously pump in and discharge river water.

    The giant intakes draw trillions of gallons of water from stretches of the river that include nursing and feeding grounds for striped bass, weakfish and other valuable aquatic life.

    "The river and bay simply cannot sustain this kind of day-in and day-out destruction," said Tracy Carluccio, a staff member for the Delaware Riverkeeper Network. Carluccio's group and several others sued the Environmental Protection Agency last year for failing to control damage from some cooling water intakes.

    The intakes at the Salem nuclear power complex, Conectiv's Edge Moor power plant, the Valero refinery in Delaware City and Conectiv's Deepwater, N.J., plant destroy roughly 607 million year-old fish annually _ a federal estimate based on industry reports.

    If fish eggs, larvae and other organisms are added, the number killed rises into the tens of billions.

    The best alternatives to intakes are massive water-cooling towers that recycle and reuse water, dramatically reducing the number of fish that are killed. But those would cost hundreds of millions of dollars to install, and that cost could be passed on to customers.

    Regulators are leaning on the plants' operators to consider alternatives to the intake water cooling systems.

    EPA water resources director Evelyn McKnight told The (Wilmington) News Journal that her agency has targeted Conectiv's plant and Valero's refinery for renewal of long-outdated permits. That permitting process is carried out by the state.

    Delaware regulators said they plan to push the companies during the renewal process to consider installing cooling towers.

    John Hughes, secretary of the Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Control, said his agency has urged both Valero and Conectiv to consider cooling systems that spare more fish.

    "We've got a strong argument. I've made the argument personally at the highest levels with Valero that ... they need to look at cooling water as a major investment issue," Hughes said.

    The EPA estimated in 2002 that the refinery intakes destroy 775,879 pounds of weakfish annually. Counting egg and larval losses, the EPA estimated that the same refinery cost the river 662,871 pounds of striped bass _ more than four times the number taken by rod and reel or net in 2003.

    "There hasn't really been a significant change to the intake system at the refinery, I don't believe, since the mid-60s at least," said Roy Miller, who directs state fish and shellfish programs. "It's high time."

    Attempts by The News Journal to reach Valero officials for comment on the company's plans were unsuccessful.

    The impact of the intake systems is not just environmental, but economic. Annual economic damages from the river's four largest power plants are estimated at $49 million, according to one Environmental Protection Agency study.

    "The final estimates may well underestimate the full ecological and economic value of these losses," an EPA research office reported in 2002.

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    Information from: The (Wilmington, Del.) News Journal, http://www.delawareonline.com

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    Thanks for post this. I meant to after reading it.

    You can't that much fish/bait/food out of the ecosystem and say it has no effect. Its a major impact, particurlarly the way it can domino.

    What get's me, if the permits are EXPIRED, why are they even allowed to continue to operate??? Try going out with an expired fishing or driver license and see what happens.
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    Chaz- something we ought to consider banning together for and helping to get results! This would really help change the Bay for the better.
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    We've been watching and talking about this on one of the "Delaware" forums too. I won't post a link to the forum because I believe it's a no-no.

    Here's a link to one of the organizations involved in fighting the status quo. I believe this link is OK to post here.

    http://delawareriverkeeper.org/takea...ting%20Station
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    This needs to get done, thanks for posting this I had no idea.

    I am sure Valero had a pretty good year, they can pay to upgrade. Give us something back for all the insane profits we gave them buying gas.

    Hopefully it will get done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dekarate
    Thanks for post this. I meant to after reading it.

    You can't that much fish/bait/food out of the ecosystem and say it has no effect. Its a major impact, particurlarly the way it can domino.

    What get's me, if the permits are EXPIRED, why are they even allowed to continue to operate??? Try going out with an expired fishing or driver license and see what happens.
    I dont think it said they are opperating under a expired license.. These places have to renew there permits every couple years.. When they go to renew a permit that is the time to add in upgrades that the epa wants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get it wet
    The intakes at the Salem nuclear power complex, Conectiv's Edge Moor power plant, the Valero refinery in Delaware City and Conectiv's Deepwater, NJ ...
    I notice they also left out the DuPont Chambers Works facility in Deepwater which discharges millions of gallons of treated wastewater effluent (including supposedly treated hazardous waste) directly into the river as well. They were even planning on supposedly treating Vx nerve agent from military installations in the Midwest.

    Anyone whom has ever seen or been in this plant would immediately recognize that the "treatment process" at that plant is little more than grand scale dilution!

    We need to stop treating our waterways as sinks and toilets. Like the old saying "we all live downstream!"

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    Isnt Valero owned by the Russian government?

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    I have made this comment in a previous post, but it also applies here. Read the report, take a close look at the numbers in the report. Pretty scary, huh? Now multiply those numbers by the number of years these plants have been operating (This is not a new problem someone just figured out, this has been going on since these plants started operating), add in the number of plants no body has figured out are doing damage, or pointed a finger at yet.Throw in some nerve gas, sewage, runoff, and an occasional oil spill every now and then. Now, where did all the fish go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by barrell
    Isnt Valero owned by the Russian government?
    I think you are referring to Lukoil?

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