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  • 08-17-2019, 08:46 PM
    cgmiller
    Hey Joe..glad to hear you are enjoying the new boat....fished today with my dad out of Sea Isle..had 1 fluke in the inlet waiting for the fog to lift...ran outside into a wind chop with a 3-4 groundswell in a different direction...brought a bunch of troling gear but never put any of it out..saw some life inshore bunker and rainfish..saw some fish clearing the water at a distance..could have been bonita or small blues...watched a boat trolling catching small blues near the sea isle lump bouy...saw a small cobia near the bouy..had 2 small fluke at the TI reef. Water was nice and clear and 80 degrees..
  • 08-17-2019, 02:15 PM
    gaff um
    Quote Originally Posted by Joey O View Post
    Did you use to own/run a 25' Grady sailfish in the early/mid 90's out of Beach Haven? If so I did your factory retrofit as per GW on the liner where it met the cuddy at Haglers marina.
    Yes, that was my boat back the...You have a great memory!
  • 08-17-2019, 12:14 AM
    Joe R.
    HI Chris..good to hear from you..LOVE the 21 SeaCraft..big step up from the 20...but that 20 was my trolling buddy for 35 years...anyway doing the Sunday early morning troll before work as in the past..just a nice ez loop around the lumps ridge etc ..depart slip at 7 and back at 11 so I dont have time to expand my range,,but that thats ok I am not getting any younger and so are my fishing friends so sometimes its hard to find people to go ...maybe a bit bumpy this Sunday so I did not look for a partner,,may just go to the inlet or take some light outfits and troll close in along the beach solo ....

    Joe R
    21 SeaCraft
    Susie 2
  • 08-16-2019, 08:55 PM
    cgmiller
    Hey Joe..how is that new Seacraft treating you? Great to read your reports..back in the days when I fished a lot I always looked for your reports...I did a lot of inshore trolling in the 2000's..every weekend. The farthest we typically went was the san jose and the maybe to the ac ridge, but typically did not have to go that far. We always trolled 2 clark spoons in my 9 to 11 rod spread (I had it bad with double riggers, flat line clips, etc. off a 26 Shamrock inboard as well as an outboard Grady...I rigged them with 4 or 5 feet of 30 pound mono and ran them behind 3-4 ounce trolling sinkers off the inside rigger 50 feet back or so..too long a leader made them tough to handle at the boat...hated planers as we typically trolled 7 to 8 knots..pelagics swim FAST..no need to diddle along..cover ground. I was always amazed that the fish could catch the clark spoons the way that they darted around. cedar plugs were on the flat line clips off the transon and a red/white jap feather daisy chain was a favorite. The first inshore yellow fin tuna we caught at the ac ridge was on a clark spoon.
  • 08-16-2019, 01:06 AM
    ARMED4BEAR
    Here's some more good info from Salt Walter -
    Trolling: I Can't Catch A Break... or a Fish

    Salt Walter

    Junior Member Join DateOct 2007Posts16
    2 Sunday’s ago. East Lump. 4 king mackerel, 3 Bonito, 1 mahi (20lbs). Multiple other hook ups. I too struggled trolling these areas. That day I had 2 Clark Spoons short with 1 and 3 oz in line sinkers. The kings loved that. Mahi bit on a pink feather on one of the short riggers. Bonito bit on the far riggers 1 a black feather, the other a green machine. I trolled at 6.5-7 knots. I am convinced it was the speed that made a difference. Typically I troll 4-5 knots. That speed works inshore for blues and strippers, but Pelagics are like bullets going through the water so the extra couple of knots isn’t even a challenge for them to catch and eat. Going to try it again this Sunday. We’ll see if my theory works.



    .................

    The Pelagics are like Race Cars, they need clear, clean blue water to not clog their filters so they can swim faster... Wahoo swim up to 6o miles an hour in that big Blue water. 6~7 mph

    Slow your Troll inshore 4~5 mph and keep all eyes on the water looking for signs of life. Don't troll in a straight line point A to point B... troll towards anything that may show life or bottom contour changes, lumps, holes, drop-offs, wrecks, bait balls, flat water (where fish oil from a feeding frenzy may have occurred - a trail of no ripples on the water - flat water) or anything floating, birds, chum slick... I know this is always mentioned and ya'll know it but I threw it in here anyway.

    Get those lures away from the prop wash and the wake of the Boat. Make it look like a big school of Fish coming through.

    One BIG problem I see with fishing in the inshore areas that I go to is this...

    Attachment 435967

    There is NO bottom contour from all the Beach replenishment and Draggers. And, you've got to go out mile and miles to get another 20 feet of water under the Boat or find any contour changes, Ooooff!

    By the Way, do you see that DARK BLUE dot on the Map off of Ocean City... It's pretty much right out in front of the Ferris wheel. Great place to fish and drift across. Go find it some time.

    And last but not least >>>>>>>>>>> USE YOUR GPS >>> Mark every and all of the contour changes or bottom features you find including depth changes like 120 ft., 140 ft.!!!! Label them while your trolling to the next spot. It's very Important to increase your odds of catching. The labels don't have to be very long. OC Wheel, OC1S, OC1E.... 28 Mile Wreck, 28 1N, 28SE2 or 28MW 4MNE

    Those are Ocean City Wheel, Ocean City Wheel 1 spot South from Original Wheel Waypoint, Ocean City Wheel 1 spot East of original waypoint... 28 Mile Wreck, 28 1N is 28 mile wreck 1 spot North of 28 mile wreck, 28SE2 is 28 mile wreck 2nd spot South East of the wreck or 28MW 4MNE is 28 mile wreck 4 miles North East of Wreck and so on... Lumps... Mark the heck outta that Map!

    Ya can always check out a couple of the Dive Maps out there for bottom structure and Wreck maps for more places to check out to find Fish.

    Fish On!
  • 08-15-2019, 04:41 PM
    Joey O
    Quote Originally Posted by gaff um View Post
    #3 clark spoons.. STOCK no clutter as shown in your photo that will only impede the action of the spoon. 4 oz drail in front of a 20' leader 60' back on a flat line clip off transom. 4-5 knots …..Ceviche!!
    Did you use to own/run a 25' Grady sailfish in the early/mid 90's out of Beach Haven? If so I did your factory retrofit as per GW on the liner where it met the cuddy at Haglers marina.
  • 08-14-2019, 07:11 PM
    gaff um
    #3 clark spoons.. STOCK no clutter as shown in your photo that will only impede the action of the spoon. 4 oz drail in front of a 20' leader 60' back on a flat line clip off transom. 4-5 knots …..Ceviche!!
  • 08-13-2019, 06:44 AM
    zthedude
    Armed thank you also I’m going to slow down a little I have been running 6 to 7 mph to try and cover more ground. But at the end of last trip I did notice both of ur hookups were in the mid 5 mph range and that may have also got my offering lower in the water column. Thanks guys all this stuff helps us guys new to the trolling game
  • 08-13-2019, 06:38 AM
    zthedude
    Joe thanks again for ur patience. I think I might not be running them deep enough and to close to the boat. I been running #2’s maybe I’ll bump up the size that might look more like a peanut bunker.
  • 08-13-2019, 01:14 AM
    ARMED4BEAR
    I run mine off the crest of the 3rd wave back behind the Boat for the closest lines out. Then run the rest in a W-pattern or a V-pattern to the way back line. Running 4.5~5 mph for the Inshore troll. Usually do pretty good.

    Offshore usually running a couple mph faster and up to 7 mph for Wahoo.
  • 08-12-2019, 11:19 PM
    Joe R.
    Quote Originally Posted by zthedude View Post
    Well done Joe. If I could bug you again I have like 30 different Clarkspoons and like 10 years Ago I use to catch little blues w them but never had any luck with them catching anything else. Two weeks ago I ran 3 rods w them in my spread with 2 ounces drails about 40 feet back got nothing on them. Everyone says how well they work so last Saturday I ran them on 4 out of the 6 rods in my spread and even pulled them behind 3” and 4” daisy chain squids. I pulled them w no weights tho just below the surface even skipping out of the water sometimes. All 30’ to 50’ back again nothing on them. They looked great to me. Here a pic. I’m I doing anything much different then you. No sure why I’m not getting even blues. And I did pick up fish on other stuff in my spread just no luck with the clarkspoons.
    I been using number 3 size all chrome Clark spoons with a 4oz trolling sinker with swivel ...trolling them on the two flat lines using a release clip to hold the line lower in the water...I only troll 2 of these about 50/ 60 feet back behind the boat in the clear water NOT in the wash...The other lines on the outriggers I am pulling the daisy chains about 75/100 ft back..depending on seas....Bonito seam to hit better early in morning / evening/ low light days...if they turn off I have used a downrigger in the past that helped catch..

    Joe R
    21 SeaCraft
    Susie 2
  • 08-12-2019, 09:24 PM
    zthedude
    Well done Joe. If I could bug you again I have like 30 different Clarkspoons and like 10 years Ago I use to catch little blues w them but never had any luck with them catching anything else. Two weeks ago I ran 3 rods w them in my spread with 2 ounces drails about 40 feet back got nothing on them. Everyone says how well they work so last Saturday I ran them on 4 out of the 6 rods in my spread and even pulled them behind 3” and 4” daisy chain squids. I pulled them w no weights tho just below the surface even skipping out of the water sometimes. All 30’ to 50’ back again nothing on them. They looked great to me. Here a pic. I’m I doing anything much different then you. No sure why I’m not getting even blues. And I did pick up fish on other stuff in my spread just no luck with the clarkspoons.
  • 08-12-2019, 06:45 AM
    aakanksha5
    I would love to give it a try.
  • 08-11-2019, 10:28 PM
    Joe R.
    trolled 2 hours this morning Sunday 8/11 only 2 Bonito trolled from 6mi out past the AC reef to 12 miles...warmer water off the reef...Had to pull the lines in at 10:30 to run in for work, about a mile from the inlet we saw loads of Bunker , small Blues and big Cobia , we tried a few cast at him but lost sight of him ...Back at the dock and to work by noon...After work and dinner the wife and I went back out for a sunset boat ride , we went out the inlet and saw birds working a mile off the beach as the sun was setting . put out 2 light rods with clark spoons and let the wife have fun with the Blues and then we got into some nice Bonito as the sun set behind the casinos ...nice long day...

    Joe R
    21 SeaCraft
    Susie 2
  • 08-11-2019, 12:11 AM
    Bob ECT
    Clark spoons on planers, save the hoo for bigger fish
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