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  • 08-20-2019, 08:27 PM
    Salt Walter
    Report from this Sunday- 2 for 3 on mahi , 3 Bonito and we saw one big *** hammerhead 9’. Only one other boat at East Lump and we did not see them hook up, but we did see the leave early. A friend was there on Saturday and reported nothing. Agree with a previous post that says keep trying and keep trying different rigs. Caught the bonito on a black feather, a green machine, and a Clarke spoon. Caught the mahi on a Clarke spoon and a pink feather with some gold Mylar streamers. So with years of failure under my belt, and no pattern as to which lure is best, I go back to my increased speed (4knots in previous years, to 7knots this year) as a factor. Or it could be that the Lord finally had pity on me for the money poured into the gas tank and finally let me catch a few.
  • 08-18-2019, 11:18 AM
    Pietro
    If you keep putting the time in like you are everything will come together. How do you think the big sporties feel after a few skunked canyon trips and thousands of dollars in fuel burned. It stinks but you keep moving forward, stay positive and things will happen.
  • 08-16-2019, 09:12 PM
    cgmiller
    in the days when I had bigger boats and did lots of trolling, we had many days like you guys describe..if I was marking fish but not getting hits I was constanly changing lures and colors, moving things in closer or a little farther out..tried spoons, plugs, deep divers, spinners, spreader bars, etc...some days it worked and other days not..I ALWAYS brought lots of rods so if trolling was not working, we would flip over to bottom fishing around wrecks,,we usually caught fluke, sea bass, ling, etc on the ac reef, san jose and other wrecks in the areas that we fished often. I had a video on facebook pop up today from 10 years ago trolling the ac pot area..beautiful calm day and only caught 1 small bluefish...
  • 08-16-2019, 12:47 AM
    Bob ECT
    For one the cedar plug/feather should be 25ft or so back but not in the prop wash, off to the corner of the boat so it's not in the wash and they can see it. Cedar plug should not be the center line if you're trolling 5 lines. Center line should be the WWB line

    If trolling five

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    The cedar would be the 2 or 4 in the corners tight to the transom. I would run the clarks behind them but farther back on planers. Bally's/chains would be wide. I'm only 20ft but I have outriggers and troll 7 lines
  • 08-15-2019, 11:17 PM
    Salt Walter
    2 Sunday’s ago. East Lump. 4 king mackerel, 3 Bonito, 1 mahi (20lbs). Multiple other hook ups. I too struggled trolling these areas. That day I had 2 Clark Spoons short with 1 and 3 oz in line sinkers. The kings loved that. Mahi bit on a pink feather on one of the short riggers. Bonito bit on the far riggers 1 a black feather, the other a green machine. I trolled at 6.5-7 knots. I am convinced it was the speed that made a difference. Typically I troll 4-5 knots. That speed works inshore for blues and strippers, but Pelagics are like bullets going through the water so the extra couple of knots isn’t even a challenge for them to catch and eat. Going to try it again this Sunday. We’ll see if my theory works.
  • 08-15-2019, 01:58 PM
    CJ
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuna View Post
    Sully,
    Tie your trip into other fishing. You may have noticed most offshore tuna trips now include deep dropping for tile, daytime deep dropping for swords. This is all because the summer tuna fishing sucks.
    Even the WM bite has been early AM only.
    Try the same thing: Bassbarn Reef is what 25-30 miles, CM reef 12 miles, Old Grounds 20 miles.
    Try flounder & than move out for the troll. of go to the troll early AM & than come in for flounder.
    From what I'm hearing the flounder bite turns on for a short time & than shuts down. At that point pick up & run the extra 10-15 miles to troll.
    As fast as your boat is you will be on the troll in 30 minutes.
    Don't put all your eggs in 1 basket. Maybe they won't be a mutiny on Calmity?
    Tight Lines!

    Sad to say, but agree with this one 110%. Whether it's fluke/sea bass/tog, triggers/tog/sea bass, mahi/wahoo/tile or tuna/mahi/ swords, with regulations and fishing the way it is, we are always targeting at least 3 species to put a decent catch together.
  • 08-15-2019, 12:41 PM
    Tuna
    Sully,
    Tie your trip into other fishing. You may have noticed most offshore tuna trips now include deep dropping for tile, daytime deep dropping for swords. This is all because the summer tuna fishing sucks.
    Even the WM bite has been early AM only.
    Try the same thing: Bassbarn Reef is what 25-30 miles, CM reef 12 miles, Old Grounds 20 miles.
    Try flounder & than move out for the troll. of go to the troll early AM & than come in for flounder.
    From what I'm hearing the flounder bite turns on for a short time & than shuts down. At that point pick up & run the extra 10-15 miles to troll.
    As fast as your boat is you will be on the troll in 30 minutes.
    Don't put all your eggs in 1 basket. Maybe they won't be a mutiny on Calmity?
    Tight Lines!
  • 08-15-2019, 08:42 AM
    Hardtop
    Quote Originally Posted by sully127 View Post
    So here's a question...

    Would there be any benefit to running out of the CM canal, troll some spoons through the rips, around the point, and then run up to Hereford's and back at around the 3 mi line? Is there a chance of hooking up with something there, close to home that will let me/us practice in a bit of an easier setting?
    Why not? Shorter trip and good practice.
  • 08-13-2019, 03:27 PM
    CaptG
    Don't just concentrate on the popular lumps, try any edges, depth changes and high spots on the chart, wrecks and pot flags and before giving up on any spot vary your speed. If you're not getting any bonito, Kings, etc. bites at typical troll speeds, slow it down, alot like 4 kts and you should atleast get into some blues, once you do keep circling back over the spot... could get into some bluefin too as they like slower trolled baits too. Inshore various size Clark spoons 6' behind various weight drails is all you need, throw in some feathers, and small hoos if you like but can't beat the spoons
  • 08-13-2019, 03:19 PM
    Joey O
    Feel your pain brother we have all been there from time to time, this season is very hit or miss and yes things seem to be getting worse every year. You have to remember what it REALLY is all about, we're out there fishing, (hopefully) the sun is shining and winds are calm with smooth seas. Sometimes we're alone sometimes with loved family members or good longtime friends, sometimes with people we just recently met.

    The BIG picture is we're out there doing it, still young and healthy enough to still get it done. I'm sure everyone here at one time or another has dealt with someone they love battling a horrible disease no longer able to do the things they loved to do,,,probably losing the battle for their life & they know it along with everyone else that's close to them.

    So, the fishing sucks and your having a bad season, That's fishing sometimes (its a lot like life, YOU NEVER TRUELY KNOW). I know how you feel, I'm guilty of it too from time to time, sucks getting the skunk trip after trip, the money spent, battling horrible seas due to incompetent weather reports, time away from the family, maybe the old lady is chewing on your butt like a mako on a chum bag about all of it (I know mine does now and then).

    We'd all like to catch fish, not even everytime, just enough so our brains say "Yeah man, this is so worth it". I'll tell ya what, when I'm driving that boat back in through the inlet after ANOTHER horrible trip and I'm feeling like you do now (which is totally understandable). All I do is look up at the sky, where the loved ones I've lost in life are now living and I know I'd much rather still be here (just like them) even if the fishing sucks. We only get so much time at this game, enjoy it, love it,even if you having a bad season. Fish WILL gather under your boat again, time after time you WILL have awesome trips again. That's fishing.
  • 08-13-2019, 12:53 PM
    sully127
    So here's a question...

    Would there be any benefit to running out of the CM canal, troll some spoons through the rips, around the point, and then run up to Hereford's and back at around the 3 mi line? Is there a chance of hooking up with something there, close to home that will let me/us practice in a bit of an easier setting?
  • 08-13-2019, 07:26 AM
    CJ
    Quote Originally Posted by KathyK View Post
    We definitely haven’t crushed the fish inshore but fishing more Clark spoons at different depths may help. We are lucky enough to have a downrigger and have caught fish down 30 feet. Also don’t be afraid to fish closer to beach, had a 38 in. King 3 miles off lbi two weeks ago
    Agree with this. Lose the plastics inshore and stick with spoons and small ballyhoos. Also, vary depths with trolling weights, planers and/or downrigger.
  • 08-12-2019, 10:21 PM
    KathyK
    We definitely havenít crushed the fish inshore but fishing more Clark spoons at different depths may help. We are lucky enough to have a downrigger and have caught fish down 30 feet. Also donít be afraid to fish closer to beach, had a 38 in. King 3 miles off lbi two weeks ago
  • 08-12-2019, 10:01 PM
    zthedude
    I feel ur pain I have been out trolling 3 out of my last 4 trips with little to show for it. I know I have a major mutiny on my boat. If we did not manage to get a few fish last time out. I bet I would have been swimming home. Even though we have been getting better each time out I think it’s going to be a hard sell to get my crew out again at 5am. I might have to talk them into an afternoon trip.
  • 08-12-2019, 06:13 PM
    caplanz
    I went out yesterday. Left out of GE inlet at 6am - same deal, somehow got 2 friends still willing to fish with me after one too many fishless days. Started at triple lumps for 1 1/2 hours then out to pots (weren't there), trolled AC reef for 2 hours, then found 4 pots south of AC reef. Didn't have a bite or any sign of life. I'm not giving up. Let me know if you ever want to fish together, I'm also somewhat new to the in/mid-shore trolling game but I am gonna keep trying until something happens.
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