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35 carolina classic vs. 42 yellowfin

8.4K views 61 replies 29 participants last post by  deep defiance  
#1 · (Edited)
what would u pick: use would of course be for strictly offshore and limited tourney such as wmo, ma500, and to travel alittle around east coast, not florida or bahamas yet. ?????????

it might not be a 35cc but similar traditional express sf w/diesels
 
#4 ·
It is all going to depend on personal preference but that Yellowfin is one big a$$ center console!!! They are cutting edge if you ask me with a CC in the 40 foot + range. When will the madness end? I thought the 38 Fountain Tournament Edition with (4) 250 Mercs on it was the top gun of center consoles, I am sadly mistaken.

I guess if you are a young gun that wants to get to the Canyon in a hurry and doesn't care about creature comforts or overnighting the Yellowfin would be where its at. No doubt both boats are going to raise fish differently and there are plenty of pros and cons. Being 25 years old I would take the Yellowfin but talk to be in about 10 years and I'm sure that opinion would change.
 
#5 · (Edited by Moderator)
I am not an outboard guy, but I am not biased against them but I love the torque, reliability of diesels plus lower maintane and resale, friends are trying to convince me to go the route of 42 yellow, for speed and not alot of time waxing and polishng and fixing slop. (***please wathc the language***)
 
#6 ·
we love our 35 classic, it hasnt let us down and raises quite a few fish, it certainly wont blow too many boats out of the water speed wise, but crazy larrys 35 classic will, haha this boat is an absolute tank. cant be as much help on the yellowfin tho. sorry.
 
#7 ·
35 Carolina. No question whatsoever. A 42 Center Console is still a center console. For that $$$ I want to be as comfortable as possible. Not standing up in Bolster seats running 50kts in 4 footers. Hard core Tourney fishing I'll take the Yellowfin.
 
#8 ·
Serious tourney fishin'

Wow! 2 very different boats each with it's own specialty I love the YF but ,if I were serious about Offshore tournament fishing, I would go with a Carolina Classic.Striper and inshore I would love to have the YellowFin. I definately believe more fish are raised behind diesels than OB's. The other factor I would consider is the Size riggers I can carry on the "CC" vs. T-Top riggers on the 'Y-Fin,spread is everything. Also I think the pit of the diesel boat is more user friendly when billfishing. I'm sure there will be disagreements JMO.
 
#9 ·
An Idea!

After some Baileys and coffee and a snowball fight with the Girls I thought....How about an Out Island! I have a couple of very ,very good deals for someone in the market for a boat in this class. One is a low hr. '06.
 
#10 ·
cbound - Going through the same process myself right now. I am currently running a 34 sea vee with trips. After coming out of a 48' sportfish because of the crew issues and ease of maintenance, I settled on a 34 center console. Now having second thoughts. Don't get me wrong, the sea vee is a top notch center console but at the end of the day it is just that, a c/c. It's nice to come home at 38 knts. but its also nice sometimes to have a hot meal, place to take a nap, get out of the wind/rain, have a place to sit, etc. The c/c is perfect for inshore but it's still a long day 70 off in a c/c. Not even close when considering maintenance, the c/c is a snap, but I like tinkering around at the dock on the boat too. I'm also considering the 35 Carolina Classic, one hell of a machine with the new common rail Cummins! Bottom line there is no perfect boat that's why you need two or three! Best of luck with your decision!
 
#11 ·
inboard v. outboard

Fuel economy would be better with inboards, cleaner wake for your spread, better fishability at the transom. I too believe inboard boats raise more fish (some more than others). Maintenance costs should be lower than outboards. 2 diesels v. 3-4 outboards. I think the inboard would back down better however the center console my turn and run them down better. With the center console you could walk around the bow. Speed would also have to go to the center console, comfort to the Carolina Classic. Last but most inportant seatrial both in all sea conditions, lay in the trough and see how each reacts, etc.
Good Luck in your search
Wayne @ Jersey Cape Yachts
 
#13 ·
VDAWG hit it on the head,we fish mant tournaments in a 31 jupiter,not the best in rough days very easy to turn and run down a big blue though,it is neat pulling into the dock weighing in fish at a big tourney and being the smallest boat,you really stick out,last year we weighed a white in at the MA500 we were the only c/c to every weigh a white at that tourney,so they told us?we raise an awful lot of bills with the outboards and you can also run your dredges closer with the outboards,but if looking for comfort prob. do not want a c/c
good luck:)
 
#14 ·
I think there is a reason very few CC's weight fish in marlin tournaments and thats because they are not the most effective platform for marlin fishing. Marlin fishing is very visual and CC's are limited to horizontal sight. Speed is great but these tournaments have systems in place that eliminate most of the speed advantage. Additionally speed is only good when you can use it and more often than not you will not be able to use it. Some other negatives...tight spread, transom eliminated from fight, poor backing down, very uncomfortable, no cover, no seats...

My opinion is opposite from above. If you are looking for a casual canyon boat where you will choose your days a CC is the way to go. Remember you will have minimum of $10K+ on the line for these tournaments and you don't want to be out of the game because your boat can't handle the conditions.
 
#15 ·
Diesel Express vs. Outboard Center Console


I would have to agree with S Adams here. If you want to fish the WMO and MA500 you are trying to compete with the big boys. Plenty of 50+ foot boats in those events who can go in conditions a center console simply can't. I don't care how big a center console it is, with 3 or 4 outboards hanging of the transom, she's not going to run well in 4-6 or bigger since she likely can't cruise slow and stay on plane. Beyond that, what does that 42YF weigh? The 36 tips the scales at 6500 lbs. Most serious 35 footers are going to be around 25,000 lbs. That is a huge difference. Yes, the visibility factor is huge too giving an advantage to the tower and convertible boats. If you want speed you build the express with the biggest power available. 9 days out of 10 you'll still be able to run faster offshore. You said use would be strictly offshore? Well that really makes it an easy decision.

Don't get me wrong, YF makes a very nice boat and I'm sure it's an awesome ride in its class. But in the big money tournaments there is just too much on the line. Now if you want to fish the SKA type events, my answer would be different
 
#16 ·
35 Carolina with the 540 Cummins, 90% of the time you will be cruising faster than you could with the YF. Also, wait about 6mths, and a 600 HP QSC will be offered in the 35 Carolina, talk about some speed! With the proper power, the 35 is hard to beat.

Chris
 
#17 · (Edited)
StickEm said:
Beyond that, what does that 42YF weigh? The 36 tips the scales at 6500 lbs. Most serious 35 footers are going to be around 25,000 lbs. That is a huge difference.
Good point Stick 'em!! A 32 Regulator Classic weighs in at 7400 dry and 31 Jupiter 7490. 1000 more pounds and 4-5 foot less of hull would make me question the quality of YF prior to purchase.

I think what always gets overlooked is the fact that large center consoles are manily designed for short runs to the fish (i.e. Florida, Bahamas, NC, California, etc...etc). Tournaments may have been on the designers mind but that would probably be kingfish tournys if anything.

I think the guys up here in the NE tend to think differently but that's my opinion. It all comes down to what is going to suit you better. When it gets too snotty to go on the CC most guys know someone with a sporty that they can jump on for that day. And the opposite is true when its 80+ degrees and flat calm the sporty guys might want to jump on the CC for a canyon day troll.
 
#18 · (Edited)
Center Consoles are for Teqiula drinkers and skirt chasers.

Sportfishes are for beer drinkers and old men....

Which they say wisdom does come with age.. i am still waiting for mine. :D


I'd go center for now. My son will soon be making trips with me so, to keep him out of the elements, that will probablly change. However for now, I am able to pick my days to fish so weather isn't a real concern.
I absolutely love the 360 degree fishabilty. Nothing like A mako straightening out the boat towing her along. going air born next to the boat and being able to comfortably follow him with the rod whever he should go. A big advantage, not having to pivot the boat. However, we still have the 29 Topaz that runs when pop wants. I fished many years on that boat and loved that too.

An awesome choice to have to make!

I am a fan of the Carolinas.

As an old timer once said, there's little replacement for displacement...
 
#19 ·
I would go with the sportfisher. More weight better ride. I haven't found a centerconsole with a ride better then the sportfisher in the same feet class. Just the two boats are uncomparable. You just have to look at your pros and cons..... For me I would have more cons then pros comparing the two. I would have con for Ride, Cabin space, Maintance now you have 3 or 4 motors. If one blows down the road you have to find a left over motor or buy one that will not match the others, Confort in weather (snow rain wind). Now the pros. Fishability and speed. For the sport fisher Pros are cabin space, protection, rided, heat/ac. the cons are fishability (any good captain should be able to get that boat turn around in a hurry though, or have a mate on the bow), and the sportfisher is slower. Those were my comparisons.... Now do the same for yourself. When purchasing something that cost soo much, you have to take a lot in consideration. Take the overall boat like I did and compare and take what you are using it for and compare. I know both are great boats but for offshore fishing I would go with the sportfisher.....Good luck with whatever you decide on!!!
 
#20 ·
I don't get the CC thing either. Haven't fished on a 30'+ one yet but I just can't imagine many advantages over a SF. My boat is by no means "fast" but it's rare that I can cruise at 27knts. I enjoy the a/c, micro, place to sleep, stay dry and plenty of places to sit. Am I getting old at 34??

--JK
 
#24 · (Edited)
Mako, you know me all in good fun! Gotta to stay smiling bro..

Seriously though boys that depends on the boats in question? To say a Sporties will always out ride a center console isn't neccesarily correct.

We have a 29 Topaz and a 26 Regulator. Pops has the Topaz (The man is so smart he doesn't even drink beer) I the Reg (Can't stop with the Partida Tequila). The Reg will run circles around the Topaz in about all but very serious conditions. The topaz just doesn't have the vee. It would beat itself apart trying to keep up. VERY good on fuel though...
 
#25 ·
Sleep late(r), fish far, make it back in time for happy hour. I'll take the speed and the Yellowfin.

If I'm looking to overnight routinely, then the Carolina.

Talk about a no-lose situation.
 
#26 ·
When someone says "fishing offshore only and wants to compete in the WMO and MA500" the term that pops in my head is "Battle Wagon". To some that may be a super fast center console, but I think to most of us that means a big, heavy, solid offshore platform that you know will get you back home in one piece (and relatively dry) when the wind and seas get nasty mid day and we're cursing NOAA the whole way home. A rig where you can look at stiff flags in the morning and say "Well, we wouldn't normally go in these conditions, but there's $500,000 on the line and I know the boat can handle it."

What is the price tag on that YF anyhow? Just wondering?