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First let me put it out there im one of those guys who dont have a boat load of money. in construction and will have to earn every penny but i found a clean 29 lurhs with no power guy who had it before had both engines pulled and motor room all re painted has everything just needs new power. my dream is to have offshore rig someday and i know i probally will never have the 2-3 hundred k it will take to buy something new so i would rather spend 60 0r 70 on reconditioned diesels and buy the boat for cheap at 8000 . wanted to get your opion on the 29 lurhs is it a good sea boat what are the pros and cons thanks fellas!!!
 

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:D We will be taking our 1993 290 open to the deep again this season, just as we have for the last 18 years..

Second set of Volvo diesels coming up on 2,000 hrs- first set got 2,000+(decided to replace instead of rebuild). Boat has 4,000+ hrs of seatime on her...

Up until last seasons minor grounding:eek:- all running gear was original. All plumbing,electrical,fuel system,tanks,etc is original. Trim tabs,steering (except for new ram),exhaust components,generator, gauges,etc. all original...

With the tanks high and dry outboard of engines, she is "tippy'' up on plane. After 18 yrs I can usually adjust tabs before a passenger can notice... Headsea-average at best. Beam sea and following-dialed in-she hums...flare keeps her dry in most conditions...wheels never leave the water. Drift is fine for 16 degree v- high gunnels feel safer with kids or old heads:D...21 to 23 knts with 230 hp. Claw/30 line day trip 45-55 miles-80 gallons.

Some early hulls did have a fiberglass 'void' problem up front-Any other ?'s feel free to e-mail. (if you don't buy let me know-I might buy it for parts:thumbsup:)
 

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First let me put it out there im one of those guys who dont have a boat load of money. in construction and will have to earn every penny but i found a clean 29 lurhs with no power guy who had it before had both engines pulled and motor room all re painted has everything just needs new power. my dream is to have offshore rig someday and i know i probally will never have the 2-3 hundred k it will take to buy something new so i would rather spend 60 0r 70 on reconditioned diesels and buy the boat for cheap at 8000 . wanted to get your opion on the 29 lurhs is it a good sea boat what are the pros and cons thanks fellas!!!
Just have a good surveyor really take a good look at the boat. If its been sitting who knows what else is shot from electronics to the fuel tanks.
 

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wish i had something positive about this one, but i don't :( .. i had 1 experience with a 29 luhrs named "double bogey" back in probably 2004. i think there were alot of problems with the specific boat, but i remember mating on it in the OCMTC overnighter even though i've tried really hard to forget that experience.

The boat wasn't able to maintain 13 kts @ 1300 without the engines (volvos) over heating. ran out to the 40 line, claw, and burned half our fuel.. received a call that fish were in spencer. capt. said we didn't have enough fuel to run. spent the night @ the claw. 'ran' back in the next day, emptied fuel in port tank, lost port engine. crawled in at a spedy 8kts... long day ..and not 1 fish to boot, never went with him again.. nice guy, no experience, half-*** boat.

but as for performance with the hull.. i dont remember banging at all (maybe due to the intense WOT speed of 13 kts!) there was a typical 2-4, 10-15kt SE.. boat drifted well when we chunked during the day at the claw. We anchored at night with no problems except lack of a windless.. radar crapped out at night so i was up all night scared $hitless enough to not care winching the anchor up.

if you like the boat, do it, i always liked the lines of the luhrs myself, but in my opinion, there are alot nicer boats on the market for what you will spend in the hull, possibly new fuel tanks, new engines, installation, and electronics. I would look more toward the 27 blackfin, 27 albemarle, 28 carolina classic, and 28 henriques if i was in the market for something that size.. with the 28 henriques having preference.

good luck!
 

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It is a nice boat ,but in a smaller canyon boat I would look for more of a deep v ,you may rock more on a drift but your back will thank you more ,after about 38 foot the flatter bottom boats are not to bad and the flatter bottom gets better mpg,but under 35 foot deep v is the way to go ,and if cost is a concern 28 topaz with diesels is the way to go not a deep v but economical mizzer
 

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Did this boat have gas or diesels? Repowering gas to gas or even like kind diesels is a lot of work but not necessarily hard or complicated. BUT, converting gas to diesel is a major project and should be done by a repower specialist.
 

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I dont follow it that closely, but I think the Luhrs 29 is much like the topaz 29 or 30. It's a great hull. hard chine , so its nice to fish out of, drift etc. Might pound a little into a head sea but you can run home on a slight tack. I think you will like it.:thumbsup:
 

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Did this boat have gas or diesels? Repowering gas to gas or even like kind diesels is a lot of work but not necessarily hard or complicated. BUT, converting gas to diesel is a major project and should be done by a repower specialist.

good point, everything will need to be changed; shafts, struts, mounts etc
 

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I would find another similar boat that some guy already dropped 50k into for a repower within the last few years and is looking to bail out around 30k.
 

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economically - not a good idea

In todays market for used boats, i think it would be a bad idea to pursuethis boat. Of course, if these is something about this boat that you just love, like the layout or the performance characteristics, or just some sentimental thing about always wanting one...well - that would be different. But, the economics would tell you DON'T

First - a pair of Cummins Remanned engines (B series) are about 45K to buy...you'll probably need running gear, engine beds, etc that will add 10K to that. Then, you'll need someone to put them in. As a contruction guy - you might possess the skills to do some or all of this yourself...as long as you truly have the time, then you'll limit your investment to the cost of the boat $8K plus engines (45K) plus running gear (10k) plus "miscellaneous" like electornics, safetly gear, etc,etc...coudl easily go into the 15-20K range. This is an 80K investment by the time you are done.

For the same 80K - you can absolutely purchase a re-powered 31 Bertram or 32 blackfin or 31 North Coast with perfectly useable electrocnis, safety gear,etc, etc....and you'll likely be fishing by May.

I knwo all about project boats. I got involved with some yeas ago - Its great fun, a HUGE learning experience. You'll get a kind of knowledge about your baot that you almost can[t get otherwise. But I'm a weirdo. I can tell you almost certainly, hat you will spend more money on your project boat than if you bought one done.

Again - if you love that boat - its another thing. ...jsut don[t let the white paint in the engine room get you all stary-eyed. If its the project you're after - do the research on the hull. There are plenty of "project" boats out there built on time proven bertram, blackfin, hatteras hulls.

Good luck with your decision
 

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I won't disparage the 29 Luhrs as I know a few folks that are being served well by this boat. However, I will say that Luhrs in general do not hold value very well. Nothing is holding value well these days, but the less popular price-point boats are really getting clobbered. It doesn't help that there's a lot of them out there for sale.

That said, I would only recommend it if you can repower on the cheap. A 29 Luhrs can be pushed fairly well by 350 CI gas engines. I don't think I would sink 70K into it for new diesels. You'd never get it back. I'd add fuel capacity before spending diesel bucks.

One issue I remember from looking at them a while back was water intrusion from the deck into the engine room and bilge - all the more reason not to drop expensive, brand new diesels into this hull. They may soon look like rust buckets and you may not be able to easily remedy the deck design flaws. There were no gutters on any deck boxes if I remember correctly.

On the plus side, with engines out you can more easily refurb all other systems and components that may be in need. With the new engines and refurb you'd at least be starting at a solid baseline that should serve you well for several years, but if you think you might be selling in a few years, you'd likely lose a lot of what you put into her.

First, before anything else, you need to confirm that the hull and all wood structures are solid. Poking and prodding with a flat blade and sounding with a resin hammer might tell you something before spending the bucks for a survey. If it's soft, I'd go elsewhere. Just walking around the topside decks might tell the story if you know what to feel for.

Good luck!
 

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You should look for a used 28' Carolina Classic w/ diesels. You will end up with a better boat for the same money.
 

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Topaz

There is a 29 topaz for sale, twin diesles in the Barn sale. Buy that , you will not even have to repower. Just spruce up the electronics, cabin, etc.
I have been on both boats, Obviously the Topaz and the Luhrs. Buy the Topaz.
Just my 2 cents.
 

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This is a good thread and don't worry about calling the luhrs a pos:D We have been told we were going to die on her since the early days...

She is light. No 2 ways about it. If you want to go out at all costs in SOLID 3 and 4s. Stay away. Buy a heavier (smaller) boat. But remember-you are PAYING for that heft in fuel bills-ALL the time. (even on the bluebird days)!

The Luhrs is not a Classic, just as an Ocean is not a Vike- but they have their niche- (especially now with the cost of fuel)

We have looked at EVERY 28-32 express out there since we got ours-its just natural...Even thought of downsizing to a 28 CC or Hen or Alb etc...but they just seem so much smaller......(on ours you can actually watch a Phillies game back at the dock-and not feel like your in each others face:thumbsup:)

So many times- I am driving home- and 2 guys are crashed inside (with ac)-and 2 other guys are crashed outside- ALL in their own berths! I don't know of any other 30 fter that this can be done....

Is she a good design ABSOLUTELY. Most fishermen can see this just by looking. Could she use improvements?? Of course,(Id love to help redesign this boat- I think it could be a winner.

Anyway-if your serious give me a shout-I will gladly tell you all her weak spots- and what I would do if if we had ours gutted......
 

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I will speak from personel experience from last July. I converted my 33 Seafox from Chrysler 360s (gas) to Toyota 4 cylinder diesels (thay go by the name Nanni but the engine is made by toyota). The engineer went over my boat and spect these engines. I didn't have to change shafts, struts or gas tanks (tanks were 3yrs old). Engines are spected to cruise at 2900 to 3200rpm and 21kt. Thats 3kt faster than the chryslers and im using 60% of the fuel that i used to. I too am a captenter and did the work myself in 2 long weekends with the help of my girlfriend and advice of the Nanni engineer. The total project cost 40k with brand new engines, gears, hoses, filters, wires, fuel lines, guages and reconditioned props. As was said above I love my boat and can say not too many people know thier boats as well as I know mine. And by the way I caught a 250# bigeye on my 1st trip to the Husdon with her!
 

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thanks fellas

Turned out to be a great thread fellas I appreciate the great info when it comes down to it for me its all about the cash. My ideal boat would be something that I could spend the least Lamont of money on be economical but at the same time still be a a real deal offshore rig I don't need a huge rig I just want to be able to run to the Baltimore fish inshore canyons not get killed on fuel and get beat to death in 4ft I mean we all have to pick our days wondering if you guys could recommended some rigs that fit that description thanks fellas!!
 

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Turned out to be a great thread fellas I appreciate the great info when it comes down to it for me its all about the cash. My ideal boat would be something that I could spend the least Lamont of money on be economical but at the same time still be a a real deal offshore rig I don't need a huge rig I just want to be able to run to the Baltimore fish inshore canyons not get killed on fuel and get beat to death in 4ft I mean we all have to pick our days wondering if you guys could recommended some rigs that fit that description thanks fellas!!
Get your self a 28 Henriques with the big single diesel... can be had for 50-60k and economical. No problem running that sled to the edge.
 

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There are so many boats for sale right now, i don't think i would go through the trouble/headaches it's going to take to do that project.

In that 28' - 32' range, you could get a real nice diesel powered boat ready to go for $40-$60k.

Look around, there's alot out there.

Good luck:)

Jim
 
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