Vigilant, I'm new to Chestnut Neck this year and haven't made it into grassy yet, not sure of the water yet, maybe I can follow you through sometime? Caught a 10Lb weakie at the end of it yesterday but didn't want to chance going any further. Xpress, needed a striper yesterday for my grand slam but couldn't find any in the Bay. When you say "up river" I guess you mean the Mullica? Mind telling me how far up? Thanks, Bayrat.