hip, I have read your posts for years now and I know you are an accomplished fisherman and all around good guy.I am posting too apologize, I have thought quite a bit about the spots situation and as this may seem hypocritical, I have too agree that spots should be kept general, and I should have just thought about it more. Because the people that are attracted to these spots may not be the kinda folks we want to fish with.They may be folks who leave beer cans and trash who park on dunes because what do they care they only fish a couple a times a year .If the beach gets closed they will fish another one.However, I only fish certain beaches and I could not imagine if my beach was closed do to some idiots who dont care.I do think that information should be shared, but until we have developed a system to notify us of the bad guy,this just may have to be this way, I know other sites do not allow lurkers period- and the barn has prided itself for the friendly welcoming attitude,but their may have too be some changes in the future.Once again hip I do apologize and I now feel you are right.