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Bassbarn member Greg is fishing on the Royal Star for tagging/releasing trip to closed Clarion Islands now.
We got a report there are seven fishermen from Thailand and they brought so many Stellas that there might be as many Stellas than International on the boat. I am sure there will be some tackle failure to fight cow with spinning setups, but some will survive.
Greg brought Hots Gipang 77XXXH popping rod and prototype 5'2" 450g Black Hole jigging rod which is capable of lifting 100 lbs dead object. The Hots 77XXH weighs only 14 oz and 450g Black Hole weighs 11 oz, but I am confident both rods can handle even a cow.
I have a good feeling that Greg might catch a 300 lbs cow with jigging/popping setup as he was an lucky angler who caught 22 lbs blackfish out of Cape May this winter.
Let's see what will happen.

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kil hope he does as well, however im not a beliver in luck, you make your own luck, and caching big fish on a consistant basis is not luck its skill, getting the bite might be luck but boating that fish weather its a black fish or tuna is all skill. People alwasy ask why do some peole alwasy catch big fish, the reason becuase they capitize when they get the bite, how many times do you hear i had a monster and it got off.
 
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Dante,
You definitely need luck to have a 300 lbs yft on your line.
Then, you need skill and experience to land it as slight mistake or tackle failure means lost fish.
the trip will give me some more ideas how I prepare for my upcoming Hurricane Bank charter for jigging and popping.


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phillyfishing said:
kil does a 300lb yf fight like a 300lb bf? cause fighting 150-200lb bf tire me out :)
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Every tuna fishermen here don't argue bluefin fight better than yft.
However cow off Mexico is different animals. Those who fought cow off Mexico and big bluefin here seldom argue cow off Mexico fight much harder.


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I think a 300# yft would yank bluefin backwards and for that matter a bigeye too.Nothing fights harder than a big yft except maybe a sword! And the warmer the water gets the more a yft is supercharged. Bigeyes are like fat kids they go hard at first but they give up quick when hit back hard.
 
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deep defiance said:
Or else what? he will make them stop fishing and bring them home?:confused::)
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Instruct him to use proper gear that is condusive to the task at hand and that would be releasing the tagged fish in good condition and not beat to hell! I know there have been some impressive catches with spinning gear as of lately but tangling with a large yft from a stationary boat in deep water is not a good idea and is not the same as fishing for bft up in cape cod ! unless of course they set the skiffs out for the spinning gear anglers which would be a little more doable but very difficult to get the fish back to the big boat for a proper tag and info.I have heard of a couple of 200# fish landed on long range boats with accurate spinners but that wasn't on a islands tagging trip.
 
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dante2513 said:
i agree do i think it can be done absolluty but its goign to be tough on a stationary boat with others on board. I would love to try and im sure one day ill get the chance.
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I agree 100% that it can be done but a tagging trip to the revillagigedos is not the place to try imo especially whe they are doing everything they can to get the islands re-opened to fishing.But at some point you have to be realistic with your equipment.Its not uncommon out there for 30 and 50 wides to get dunked in the water with a backup outfit because a large yft dumps 500yds of spectra with little intent of stopping.Here is an excerpt from the capt of a long range boat from not too long ago! With that being said i would love to tangle with a yft from a panga off el banco or cleophas bank or some of the banks off of cabo,and do it with a spinning outfit and stickbait.Time to dust off the bd200 and put her to work.


When he did hook the giant, it absolutely smoked his Shimano Tiagra 30 leading to a full hour of the reel in the water on a backup out five to six hundred yards from Royal Star. It was an exemplary battle afterward that resulted in a significant victory for all of us, but none more than Miles who is presently on cloud nine; and rightly so. An extra comment about the Tiagra 30 is also in order as it preformed flawlessly after being submerged for over an hour
 
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vannstandsmerke said:
I think a 300# yft would yank bluefin backwards and for that matter a bigeye too.Nothing fights harder than a big yft except maybe a sword! And the warmer the water gets the more a yft is supercharged. Bigeyes are like fat kids they go hard at first but they give up quick when hit back hard.
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Vann, I hope to prove you right. My biggesst YF to date was 140-50 fish. While I thought he didn't copare to a BF the same size I know all fish are different and you would know.

I hope our local canyons gant me one soon...
 
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Only 18 tags are used (one tag for each angler) on the the trip, so using a spinning gear is not a big deal. There are some monsters,but I read majority fish are 100 - 200 lbs which can be landed with spinners within 30 - 45 minutes.

Guys from Thailand looks very experienced fishermen, but I think it will take time to figure out how to fight a cow effectively with spinners as i don't think they ever encountered big fish like yft in 200 - 300 lbs range.

I heard one of the fishermen from Thailand is very rich and he owns a couple of nice fishing machines in Thailand. See the All the Stella on the boat. The rich guy owns 50 Stella. :eek:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/ksong/2010/tailandboat1.jpg


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/ksong/2010/Thailandboat3.jpg


It is funny someone mentioned about panga fishing for big cow.
In fact, we are checking the possibility to fish closed areas on pangas off a mothership. :) If they can get the permit, there is a possibility to fish on pangas.

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