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I can't take it anymore, there are to many people out on the water who don't have any respect and or knowledge of the NAV rules.

I haven't gone a single day yet where someone hasn't waked us out while we are working ATON, for YOU at that.

These arrogant boaters are putting my crew and myself in danger. Do you know how dangerous of an evolution it is to hoist a 3000 to 5000lb buoy connected to a 4k cement rock with 90 feet of 7/8" chain in a strong current with 20knt winds and our wire ropes are only rated for so much of a working load limit, and then a wake approaches and we go down in a swell and come back up it puts a SHOCK LOAD on the whips whi :mad: ch in turn can part, then a 5000 lb buoy can fall onto someone or damage the boat, or 90 feet of chain can go wild off the boat and bring somebody with it. I've seen these whips part a few times already, (nobody got hurt), (except the boat) so I know what its like.

Other times we get dropped off onto buoys, thats right a man jumps from the boat to the buoy, climbs to the top and starts to troubleshoot and fix the complicated lighting system. Its a wild ride in the firest place, but when Joe Boater comes flying by with no regard, WOW.

Another one is when you see any CG Buoy tender or small boat tied to a light with our RAM DAYSHAPES flying high, please slow down, because we are most likely raising and lowering gear and parts that can weigh up to 80lbs from the boat to the structure, already trying to keep our balance.

So hears the scoop:
Black hulled buoy tender
Ball Diamond Ball in the daytime
Red White Red at night
SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW DOWN!!!!!!!!

The sad part is there are still some who don't even know what the above means, hopefully these Boater Safty Courses are teaching this. But even if you don't know the rules, its pretty much common sense is you see someone hanging off a light or a buoy or hoisting huge objects 12 feet out of the water (especially a huge 5foot round by 11 feet high buoy), how dumb are you, or do you just not care. I bet your the same person who doesn't put the shopping cart back in the parking lots, so that it can slam into another persons car.

To the majority who do slow down, THANK YOU.

To the 3 boats that flew by us today while we were hoisting buoys between Longport #'s 1 and 7
[email protected]#$%^&$$+)(*&^%$#@#$%^&$$(*&^%$#@$%^&* YOU :mad:
How could you not of seen us waving our arms trying to get your attention, or did you????

I thought I would put this up, if it makes one person slow down for us, then it was worth it.

BTW, did any of the guys on the Longport jetty catch anything, that wind was howling wasn't it.
 

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Way to put it to 'em DJCoast! It's common courtesy to slow down. It's also part of the Nav Rules to slow down around any boat engaged in work ("All powervessels shall reduce their speed to slow speed when passing work barges or floats while actually engaged in work"). This is a big reason the NJ Boating Safety law has been passed. To try to educate ingnorant boaters. Operators of vessels are responsible for any damage their wake may cause while underway. Maybe if you had put a shot across their bow they would've gotten the hint ;)
 

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Shouting in the wind there DJ...I spend at least 2-3 minutes on this subject in the certificate course...way more than the course allows for any one subject.

Gotta tell you it's just some people are overwhelmed with boating. I've instructed enough boat drivers to know a certain percent of the population do boat just infrequently enough that they just can't put it all together every time they go out...it's not they are arrogant or mean...they just are oblivious because they are in sensory overload.

The others are just arrogant and I hope they get theirs some day....

Same happens to us tow guys a lot too...trying to hump a battery to another boat, pass gas cans or just hook up.

Had a sportfish go by in TI area last Sat. late afternoon...I guess the red/yellow lights are tough to see???? His 3 foot wake put the tow boat up on the beach with the boat I was trying to pull off.

That's bad..... but I do understand what the ATON stuff is about and I know it's dangerous under ideal conditions.

Don't know what the answer is...the vast majority just need the experience...the other guys just never seem to get caught by the LEOs.

Stay safe...go ahead and vent any time...there's plenty of good people here that support you...
 

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Scott,
I think you spent more time than that.

DJ,
Any chance you can get another coastie or state boat to sit off in the distance from you. It would be one heck of a revenue generator and might get these jack arses to slow down the next time
 

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I SUPPORT---MTFMB.WHICH IS WHAT JASON SAID.

MORE TICKETS FOR MORE BOATERS.GIVE ME A TICKET BOOK AND THREE UNMARKED CHASE BOATS AND NJ WILL HAVE A SURPLUS OF MONEY AND LOWER TAXES.

BOATING IGORANCE HAS NEVER BEEN THIS BAD.
 

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DJ... I was watching you work from the road in front of the church yesterday afternoon about 4:30 (snuck out to jump around the jetties at the point a little before sunset.. there are no fish there... never have been, never will be
).. I slip the boat back behind Margate and boy was I ever glad to see you guys replacing that beatup string of cans...

The neighborhood is full of bozos with boats... too bad the zodiac wasn't around to bust them when they blew past you....

[ 05-24-2006, 09:04 AM: Message edited by: fmTuna ]
 

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these may work better



no one slows down on the road with signs, cones, people, cops...

and I'm sure if some running a $300,000 boat dumping in $600 in fuel, would could care less about a $250 ticket in perspective.

DJCoast, thanks for sharing and educating, what you don't use, you loose....be safe.
 

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it's not just the big boats or the expensive boats...clueless and arrogant run in all classes of society...

[ 05-24-2006, 01:06 PM: Message edited by: Capt. Scott ]
 

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Thanks fellas. It was a long day, and I thought I'd vent a little.

Design, lol.

FMTuna, put some brand new ones out there for you.

FizzEd, I'll call you soon to go fishing, maybe Thursday night??
 

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Maybe 1 in 10 have a clue what RAM means. We used to teach that in Boating Skills and Seamanship but that course is pretty much extinct. Most now want the minimum to get by. Lessons by video tape. I suggest you get a couple 4X8 sheets of plywood with NO WAKE MEN WORKING painted on it. It might work.
 

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A shot over the bow might bring the clowns into reality, however I don't believe your workboats are so equipped.
You know damn well those clowns won't be tuned to channel 16 either.
Stay safe guys.
 

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The thing is we are in the middle of the evolution, where you have to pay attention so nobody gets hurt, if that chain starts going you have to get out of the way quick, so there not really even enough time to call the station to go after them, and we also have the authority to go after them, but we are pretty much anchored to the rock sitting on the bottom, not to mention out boat only goes 10knots tops, lol. You can't look away for 1 second. My position is the BDS (Buoy Deck Supervisor), I basically give the commands to the engineer (hand signals) who is working the boom, and to the two crewmembers working the deck, I have to watch out for everything, and make sure the evolution is safe.

Its really hard not to look, when your working a buoy and someone 50 yards away is reeling in a nice striper or fluke, its painful actually, lol.

One cool thing is I get alot of lures, weights, and rigs that are stuck to the buoys or chain, so thanks fellas, lol......
 

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When I took the coastguard safety course 20 years ago the instructor stated that 95% of boaters have no clue about water safety. They buy a boat and drive like they do on the expressways, don't get in my way attitude! Fishing the back on weekends, you take your life in your hands because of these idiots. Hopefully the NJ requirement to take boater safety course a requirment may at least open their eyes to the little guys. Just my two cents.
 

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If you guys ever have a problem with a buoy or light off station or extinguished or a missing dayboard shoot me an e-mail and I will make sure we check it out. Alot of times people report it to the Coast Guard, but its either a station or group and we never even get the message.

P.S., check out some pics I have up in the Memorial Day thread over in the Surf Forum
 
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