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There are certain flies that you can use for more than one species. As an example, everything eats a wooly bugger. You can use that for bass or trout, and big ones for salt. What I am looking for here is freshwater flies that will work for bass and trout. The idea being less patterns to tie. Any good dries that go both ways?
 

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For bass and trout and dry you can never go wrong with a big caddis fly, or caddis style. I tie em with deer hair and foam to keep them up on the surface after several bass.



Another popular one lately is the turcks tarantula, I dont have a pic of one i tied, snagged this from a web site.




For subsurface I have done well with small bottom feader patterns, like a clouser style.





then there is a cray pattern, trout and bass will kill for them. I tie some little ones for sunnies, fallfish and smallies, would work great for trout.
 

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the Slump Buster is a good one for bass and trout. I mostly use them for trout, but pick up plenty of smallies on them.

Slump Buster, if you didnt know, has a very specific other meaning... but that's not for this forum.

Trout fishing is such a specialized area though... I mean to really target trout, especially wild ones, you're needing to have quite a wide range of patterns.

Seems that for bass, of any kind, you can get away with tieing very few patterns anyway... Of course, I'm no bass expert.

When I used to cast lures, I can count one hand the different types of plugs I would ever use for LMB and SMB. Now that I'm really getting into targeting bass on the long rod, I'm sticking to the same theory which is, if its an easy meal, a bass is usually hard wired to kill it.

I mean, I rarely ever used anything besides a floating silver Rapala for bass.
 

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A clouser style fly tied in various configurations has probably caught more fish than any other fly simply because it works. If I had to have only one fly type, that'd be it.
 

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Any good dries that go both ways?
I don't make it a practice to use trout style dry flies for smb, but with that stated here are a few that will give you dble duty.

stimulator
improved sofa pillow
Wulff patterns (royal, grey, white)
elk hair caddis
and the
Rude Trude (my pattern)
this is the titty pink rude trude, A killer attractor pattern that i've fished all over the east and west.
 

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I don't make it a practice to use trout style dry flies for smb, but with that stated here are a few that will give you dble duty.

stimulator
improved sofa pillow
Wulff patterns (royal, grey, white)
elk hair caddis
and the
Rude Trude (my pattern)
this is the titty pink rude trude, A killer attractor pattern that i've fished all over the east and west.
That is a nice looking fly VF

John, they are great looking as always.

I have some Caddis that I have done. and some small whispy clousers that I will use in the spring of various colors. I tied quite a few clousers in size 8 on an 811s. Cabellas was dumping them a few years ago in Hamburg for about two thirds off. I like the foam fly, gotta try that. I do a small beetle type popper with foam and estaz.

Got to get to the bench, and get ready for spring. I have a lot of salt ties, but need to do some fresh. I cannot believe I have not been to the bench since last April. Too tired from work. That is why I am looking for patterns that can go both ways because of time.

I expect to go through a lot of salt flies because of my resolution. If I have to go to spinning because of conditions, I am going to use a casting egg and a teaser, and hang up the plugs. They are too much to lug around anyway.

How does one exactly become a " Knight of the Fudd"? I have been wondering about that.
 

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How does one exactly become a " Knight of the Fudd"? I have been wondering about that.
you don't "become" a :bow:Knight of the Fudd:bow:it is by divine proclamation that one is tasked with the honor of defending the Fudd:bow:. There is the purification by pain (also known as fishing with John) and the life long quest for the "most excellent tumbler". It is from this that the Fudd:bow: is beleived to have sipped coffee during the pre-fish breakfast (the holiest part of the day). It is the holy cup from which he supped.

You must also have a strong working knowledge of double duty flies. Keep seeking the answers to your questions, remain pure of heart but beware you may get what you ask for.
:bow:ALL HAIL THE FUDD:bow:
 

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you don't "become" a :bow:Knight of the Fudd:bow:it is by divine proclamation that one is tasked with the honor of defending the Fudd:bow:. There is the purification by pain (also known as fishing with John) and the life long quest for the "most excellent tumbler". It is from this that the Fudd:bow: is beleived to have sipped coffee during the pre-fish breakfast (the holiest part of the day). It is the holy cup from which he supped.

You must also have a strong working knowledge of double duty flies. Keep seeking the answers to your questions, remain pure of heart but beware you may get what you ask for.
:bow:ALL HAIL THE FUDD:bow:
What constitutes a pre fishing breakfast, crushed glass and razor blades?
 

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Looks like it would immitate a washed out goldfish/carp as well as a bug.
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Rude Trude; color - titty pink
Hook - 2x long dry fly #12-16
tail- bleached elk hair
body - 1 white & 1 pink quill wrapped together side by side (coat w/cement)
Wing - bleached elk hair, pearl midge k-flash
thorax - pink dubbing
hackle - golden badger, tied in at the eye and wrapped backward tied off and then the thread is advanced through the hackle and tied off behing the eye.

the fly was designed to float high on the fast choppy water of high gradiant trout streams, without floating too high where fish would push it out of the way when they strike. it is also tough, one fly will hold up to many fish I also tie it in several color combinations.
yellow/white
orange/white
olive/yellow
Gray
 
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