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Been a while since i fished, and longer since I saw a striper in the net.Think the full Moon is thursday this week and hope to go out. Thinkin eels/ poppers outside of Barnegat inlet. Any tips- first full moon night trip.

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jjsax. I checked this weeks Fisherman magazine and it states the full moon isn't until August 19th. You better check your calander. Tom.
 

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New moon is this comming friday. Just as good as full moon, or bad, according to who your talking to. Lots of different opinions on the moon.
 

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Well new moon...full moon what's the difference? ;)

It could bea cloudy, dark night either way. So you should have the terority completely memorized and waypointed. For safety sake you'll need to be able navigate in poor visibilty. And know the conditions and your capabilities. Waves, wind, and tide can wreak havoc on you, ie. an experienced Captain just got beached by waves on the south end of LBI Friday during the day in fog!!!

As for striper tips this time of year, don't know but check out this weeks Local Fisherman, it's chuck full of tips!
 

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Originally posted by sic yakker:
jjsax. I checked this weeks Fisherman magazine and it states the full moon isn't until August 19th. You better check your calander. Tom.
That's correct, we just had the full moon on July 21st but try to catch the start of either tide around first light or sunset.
 

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Sun 31 Jul, 2005

THE REAL SCOOP ON MOON PHASES

By Joe Bucher

Full Moon or Dark Moon? Major and minor solunar periods? Which is best? Does any of this moon mumbo jumbo make any real sense nor does it actually work? These are legitimate questions asked by thousands of anglers each year, and they deserve concrete answers backed up by some bonafide data. Yet as much as pro anglers endorse the effectiveness of moon charts and outdoor publications of every niche' continue to print them, rarely does either source validate these solunar claims with data.

It's not hard to find a solunar table of some kind. Nearly every fishing publication today publishes some kind of monthly solunar table, moon chart, activity calendar, action graph, or other similar version. All of these tables, charts, and calendars claim to predict daily feeding activity of fish with accordance to moon and solar influences. Yet, I, like so many other anglers, rarely find any consistent correlation with most of these references.

Finally, back in 1976, when I got into the fishing guide business full time, I really made it a point to compare my fishing catches to a number of solunar charts. Once I started logging my catches on a daily basis I developed a good data base. This finally put me in a position to compare hundreds of muskies, and thousands of bass and walleyes on a daily, monthly, and yearly basis to any printed solar/lunar reference. One of my key entries was the time of day. I figured a daily entry of fish activity would finally give me a mound of fishing data to compare with the various solar/lunar references on a given day to day basis. What followed convinced me that certain solar/lunar criteria simply had little or no daily influence.

Basically, I became so frustrated and disappointed with the lack of any real consistent correlation to most of the popular magazine charts today that I gave up on them completely. They simply did not work. I actually caught far more fish when they weren't supposed to bite. And when good fish and game activity did coincide, which was less than 10% of the time, it was plainly obvious that it actually had much more to do with the local weather changes than any predicted major or minor solunar period.

You would have thought that my accumulated research would have cured me from ever looking at a solunar chart again, but it did just the opposite. Why? Because I ended up discovering a certain solar/lunar influence that really did work. In fact, it worked so well that it was hard to believe at first. My daily fishing logs had surely disputed the commonly accepted correlations, but they just as surely pointed to indisputable evidence that a "certain" solar/lunar factor was really important.

Yes, I had flipped 180 degrees on the entire solar/lunar deal. I went from totally disbelieving to being totally convinced. In fact, I eventually got to the point where I myself began to predict the most probable daily, monthly and even yearly times when the biggest fish were most apt to bite. And what's even more incredible, was that I was right almost every single time! But perhaps what was even more unbelievable to me was that everyone else had missed this simple but really absolutely true key.

The real secret, I discovered, to solar/lunar influences on a daily basis was nothing more than knowing when the sun and moon rose and set on a 24 hour basis. That's right, it was simply a matter of knowing, to the minute, when the sun came up and went down, and when the moon came up and went down each and every day. My 21 year old fishing log revealed without question that fish were active during a 90 minute window surrounding each one of these four daily influences.

Now, I realize this sounds overly obvious, but I told you it would. Most of the solar/lunar charts, tables and graphs you see depicted in today's publications do not reveal nor coincide with these four vital factors. 1) sun rise, 2) sun set, 3) moon rise, and 4) moon set. Yet it doesn't take an astrologist to figure out how important the rise and set of the sun and moon has to be.

It's certainly no secret that feeding movements of both fish and game have been traditionally accepted as key during dawn and dusk -- this correlates with sun rise and sun set. Moon rise and set is a bit more tricky to key in on though since they can often occur at mid day or mid night. Overcast weather can also make it impossible to see a moon rise or set, and of course a dark/new moon is not visible to begin with.

The other "super secret" my logs revealed was the predictable frequency of big fish catches during the peak moon phases of full and new moon. Specifically, a lot more big muskies, walleyes, and bass were taken right on the scheduled calendar day of both the full or new (dark) moon peak, and continued for a three to five day stretch afterwards. In other words, if the full moon peak is on June 10th, June 10 thru 15 have great potential for trophies.

Backing up a bit, the four daily factors previously discussed (the rise and set of both the sun and moon) inside each one of these predictable monthly moon peaks (four days on the back side of the full or new moon) further nails it down. In other words, you want to plan your fishing trips to hit the peak of the full or new moon. Then you want to be on your favorite big fish spots during the daily rise and set of both the sun and the moon.

Finally, my logs revealed a third factor that really adds impact to this entire solunar secret. That unpredictable third influence is local weather. Whenever a local weather change coincides with the daily rise or set of either the sun or the moon, during a peak monthly moon period, big things happen in bunches.Big things meaning big fish. For example, give me a severe summer T-storm right at sunset, and just before moon rise during the new moon period and it's almost a sure bet that that I'm going to bag big muskies or the year's biggest catch of lunker walleyes. Or just as good -- put me on a steep rocky shoreline with some spawning ciscoes right at the start of a snow storm in the late fall just after sunrise and right before moon set during a full moon period. Big muskies, big pike, big walleyes and big lakers will be snappin'.

Could there be a fourth factor? Absolutely. In fact, there might even be a 5thor 6th. However, an easy-to-detect 4th factor of influence that adds even more impact to an already good situation is a change in the photoperiod, or laymen's terms -- a change in season. Photoperiodism is actually the measured ratio of daylight to darkness. The most drastic changes in the photoperiod occur in the spring and fall, but mini-differences are detected inside all seasons which are quickly detected thru their eyes and transmitted to their pituitary gland. The responses to these changes in the photoperiod trigger sexual responses such as reproduction and the development of eggs. This, in turn, also triggers increased movement and feeding binges by normally less active trophy fish.

I do realize how controversial my comments on solunar table validity may seem to some, but the facts speak for themselves. My data clearly points to sun rise, sun set, moon rise and moon set as The most important factors. The simple rise and set of both the sun and moon has far more impact than any other daily sun or moon position. That is, bar none, the single most important daily triggering factor of both fish and game.

Monthly peaks in both the full and new moon are a second factor definitely worth considering. When fish of all sizes are feeding infrequently due to a prolonged streak of bad local weather conditions, that small "window" of three to four days right after the actual moon peaks, full or new, may be the
only time that the largest fish of any species is truly cacheable. Fishing during the daily rise or set of the sun and moon during these key monthly moon phases is paramount.

Weather is also a legitimate third factor, and helps to elevate the impact of the daily rise and set of the sun or moon. It further elevates the entire realm of big fish possibilities when all three factors happen at relatively the same time. A changing weather pattern combined with a good monthly moon phase and rise or set of either sun or moon can activate some major movement from big fish.


If all of these things happen during a good photoperiod, look out! This is when the biggest fish of the year are generally caught. If your serious about taking such a fish, I'd suggest you start really paying attention to the real scoop on moon phases! Trust me -- thousands of entries in my fishing logs
can't be wrong. This stuff really works!

[ 07-31-2005, 11:31 PM: Message edited by: Brian E. Mullaney ]
 

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I always liked to fish around full moons and new mooons. And of course sun rises and sunsets have been good times to fish too. Good fishing before a new moon rises, until it's been up for an hour or two than the fishing tends to slow down seem to re- occur...but I have not had any succes when the sun and moon are directly overhead, and this is another one of those solunar periods.

When is a good time to go fishing? WHENEVER you have the time ;)
 

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I believe that the moon phases affect the anadromous species the most. Fish like herring, stripers, and salmon that spend their adult lives at sea, but return to freshwater areas to spawn. Over centuries, these fish developed migrations during the flood tides, created by the new and full moons, to hurdle the small waterfalls and other obstructions that would otherwise block their passage to the breeding areas. I have witnessed artic char waiting in a river pool until a 30? tide allowed them to circumvent a waterfall. When I fish for these anadromous species, I use the moon phases to extend my fishing by fishing the new and full moons at the start and end of the species migration.
 

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Tom, thanks fo heads up. looked at my calendar wrong -mixed up full and new.

Brian- Cool article. might explain why I've seen some people pull up some nice stripers at times when I don't even bring a rod to the beach.

rebait- any time is the truth. Now that summer school is out and teaching is over- i have a month!!!! wish we had the month of novemeber off instead ;)
 

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JJSAX

Right now we still seeing alot of bunker schools around the central part of the state so make sure you have a couple of snag rigs
 

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JJSAX

Right now we still seeing alot of bunker schools around the central part of the state so make sure you have a couple of snag rigs
 
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