Got my tags, question on the log, can it screw us?

843 Views 16 Replies 12 Participants Last post by Brian E. Mullaney, Sep 14, 2005

henrybasstardo

Discussion Starter · Sep 1, 2005

I would be very hesitant to fill out that log especially if the fall is anything like the spring was my log would have been not typical. Lots of Stripers, some very big fish. I can see them taking that log and saying that this must be the normal for every angler and "averaging" it out. I think I should put down my 50-80 hours fishing and "0" fish.

Just curious on your opinions because it took me at least five years to become confident on the surf and I've been doing well but nothing like last spring.

I know that isn't right but like 2 years ago when the whole fall season was a blowout and they said we took more harvest than the previous year that wasn't right either. It was made up BS. Why fuel their pathetic made up numbers? So they can screw us more? That log is scary. I can see guys wanting to fill it out with great accomplishemts of great catches and bam! It's like we all catch like that. How about the hours and hours and money spent on no fish?? Do we log that?

Any opinions? How are the logs used? Against us? BTW, my brothers and I released way more than we took, do we record that? Guess I should read the damn thing.

Cheers

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Bob ECT

· #2 · Sep 1, 2005

No, it's not used by MRFSS

henrybasstardo

Discussion Starter · #3 · Sep 1, 2005

Thanks Bob!

Bigguy

· #4 · Sep 1, 2005

the log is suppose to be filled out for all your fishing trips, On the days that the big skunk is there, I just put the location and 0 fish caught, Joe.

Reel-ality

· #5 · Sep 2, 2005

Bigguy, you have it right.

Spooled

· #6 · Sep 2, 2005

Always put the skunk report on the log

ulackfocus

· #7 · Sep 2, 2005

There is a spot for "LENGTHS OF S.B. RELEASED" in the middle. I skunked out the entire fall last year - I kept putting off my trips to Delaware Bay until the oil spill and then just called it a year after that. You can't go wrong giving accurate information for each trip you make regardless if you fill the box or goose-egg.

circlehook

· #8 · Sep 7, 2005

there not used by the mrfss, but look at it this way.

If you report a great season, your concerned their gonna use it against us by thinking everyone did great, thus taking too many fish, resulting in stricter regulations.

On the flip side, if everyone were to report nothing caught, then it looks like the fishery is crashing and it could result in stricter regs. Or worse yet, their confident in the population but think the recs arent utilizing it to its fullest and give the comm sector more fish.

Bottom line IMO is to tell it like it is, good or bad. At least let the managers look at some actual accurate data in regards to the fishery. I think they should use it in making decisions since it has to be way more reliable than the dreaded fictional MRFSS.

Bob ECT

· #9 · Sep 7, 2005

Please try to be as accurate as possible.

Brian E. Mullaney

· #10 · Sep 7, 2005

WHAT BOB SAID - HOW CAN PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT COMMERCIALS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY (CULLING ETC) AND THEN BLATANTLY LIE IN THERE LOGS OR NOT SEND THEM IN AT ALL.

A LITTLE HYPOCRITICAL YOU THINK????

Pineyjack

· #11 · Sep 11, 2005

I fish mainly Mullica river & keep log of all spots for bass caught with map,send this in every year as it may help them with the tagging program at rutgers.
Have seen decline in larger bass in the last 3 years in the months of june july & august.

TWIN D'S

· #12 · Sep 11, 2005

I tell the truth on the logs. We can't on the one hand complain about MRFSS while simultaneously falsely reporting our own results.

henrybasstardo

Discussion Starter · #13 · Sep 12, 2005

Thanks for the replies and opinions. What if the MFRSS was unsing it? What do they use? I talk to a lot of anglers and the avaerages don't add up. Where is the data for the bonus program? It is goverment run and should be public knowledge. Where can I see the numbers?

I put in a few hours this weekend off the beach. Not a touch. Some sharks and big rays on bait. Won't be long though. Come on cold fronts.

Cheers

whalerman

· #14 · Sep 12, 2005

The less you tell the government the better. Sooner or later they will screw us. How can you trust what they do with our info when we do not get full disclosure even when we try to press the issue?

Brian E. Mullaney

· #15 · Sep 13, 2005

if they know we are lying - they will screw us more

Re-Bait

· #16 · Sep 14, 2005

If you participate in the program, you'll know it's only YOUR catch that gets recorded, not the boat's catch. And if you are in the program, you have agreed to follow the rules. Under report if you want to, put that too may screw everybody in the long run.

With BFT, any fish not "fully utulized" was given to the commercial sector to harvest; we conserve so they can kill. Do you know what that means? For years hundreds of tons of BFT were incorrectly killed by the commercial sector because re did not catch(ie REPORT) our allocated portion.

And let's face it how many people don't call in their catches??? NMFS made the stupidest statistical error of all time when they ASSUMED that they would have 100% registration and reporting.

These records are going to the state not NMFS. And to me NJ seems to be doing a better job than the feds. I suggest everybody report properly....

Brian E. Mullaney

· #17 · Sep 14, 2005

well said re-bait!

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