Just got done tying two nail knots to attach dacron backing to fly lines and I really despise tying this knot. I used a coffee stirrer for a straw and it took me about three attempts to get it right on each one. I'm really not knot-challenged-can do a bimini, palomar, clinch, surgeons loop etc. , all with my eyes closed, but the nail knot really just pisses me off. Anyone have a better solution for fly line to backing- a loop to loop system maybe? How would you put a good loop into the dacron? There has to be a better way!