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Recently I have been going on fishing the back bays and the ocean on Flat days and have not been doing squat. Fishing the tides evreything. Using different baits, trying this and than and can not come with anything of anysize. The biggest thing I landed was a Stingray. What fun that was. Picked up 2 small blues last week in the little Egg Inlet. Some Small Flounder here and there.. A ton of Sand Sharks. Just looking for Ideas... Anyone have anything... Water Dpeths, Baits, Etc... I am in the OC area... I will be down the week of the 15th and really looking to do something.
Thanks

Perplexed Fisherman
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I have absolutely no experience fishing in that area, but have a bit in the back bays. Here's my advice:

1. Try to avoid the dead fish baits. Mackeral stips, blue strips, and mullet are a sure fire way to get sharks. Yes, they work for flounder and weakfish and stripers, but they bring shark in too quickly.

2. Don't let it sit...if you let the baits sit and deadstick everything you will be prone to sharks. I catch a lot less junk when I'm actively jigging the baits. Make sure it's bouncing of the bottom, and not just dragging, or worse yet, sitting still when you are anchored.

3. If you really want to use strip baits like mackeral or bluefish, put it on the top hook on a top-bottom rig. Same goes for clam. Put squid and minnow on the bottom. (or use shedder)

4. Find holes that are at the mouths of small streams in the sodbanks. Yes this also holds shark, but the bait working up and down the streams make them great ambush spots for striper, weakfish and flounder.

5. If you start hooking "real" fish on the upper hook, then you can shift those baits to the bottom. I usually wait until I'm sure real fish are around and hungry before putting the stinky fish baits on the bottom.

These methods have worked pretty well for me. The last bit of advice is to really do your homework on the right baits to use. Personally I think live baits are usually ideal, but many others would argue that point. Good luck, and let us know how it works out.
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Fish the sodbanks at dawn and dusk. Leave the bait home and use plastics, swimmers and popping plugs.

It takes a while getting used to fishing that way but it's well worth it once you learn.

If you are intent on fishing bait, I have to agree with The Reckoning but my bait of choice would be shedder. It catches everything that swims.

Good luck.
Four or 6 inch whit grub with spearing 1/2 jighead. JIg Jig Jig!!!You should limit out on flounder in no time. Bass fish early am or early pm before dark with topwater around the sod banks.Weakfish fish early am or pm with 1/2 bucktail tipped with shedder. Good Luck
Originally posted by snichols:
Fish the sodbanks at dawn and dusk. Leave the bait home and use plastics, swimmers and popping plugs.

SportsManFR,
Welcome to the BassBarn.Com,
Glad To Have You Aboard..........

I would have to mostly agree what Steve
said here.,.Expect I would Bring Some Bait.
And that Bait Would Be SheddarCrab.,..
It's a little expensive but well worth it
in my opinion.. I have fished the Backbays
of OC for many years and I have found that
during the months of July & August placing
a piece of cut sheddar crab along these
sodbanks during the morning and evenings the
Stripers and Weakfish just cannot pass it
up.. The key here is also to get out before
or after the heavy boat/jetski traffic ...

Good Luck Out There....
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Should you find shedder difficult to procure, small lengths of blood worms work excellent this time of year. Just change them often. Wt or yellow bucktails/shad darts tipped with bloods = win situation. Tie direct to lure until a school of blues tells you otherwise, (bring plenty) ;) .
Thanks to everyone for the good advice. I will be fishing all of next week down there and seeing what I can pick up. I will be hopping on my CC and see what the I can drag is. Last weekend was a bust. About the whole good action I got was a Stingray
SPORTSMAN-FR---THOSE GUYS THAT GAVE YOU SUGGESTIONS ARE SOME OF THE BEST BACKBAY FISHERMAN.LET ME GIVE YOU ONE OTHER IDEA CHARTER A FISHERMAN WHO FISHES THERE LIKE BACKBAY CHARTERS AND TELL HIM WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO.THE GUY NAME IS ED HE ADVERTIZES ON THE BARN.I DON'T KNOW THE MAN BUT HEARD HE'S GOOD.THIS WAY YOU SEE HOW ITS DONE AND CAN ASK WHY?
Sportsman
we have been catching fluke on the smallest shade darts that will let you occasionaly feel bottom a minnow, both attached to a pice of 20 lb fluro, we fish the drops offs say 7 feet to 20 feet, last time we got into them it was the top of the outgoing
hope this helps
All great ideas, I like the artificals and most important, you got to go early morning before the sun rises and at sunset into the night. That is when you will find your bigger fish.
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