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It appears that many have forgotten that Newt Gingrich was responsible for the NAFTA having passed the House and giving Bill Clinton what he wanted. But as Donald Trump has repeatedly pointed out, the NAFTA deal is perhaps the worst trade deal ever made by the United State and is responsible for dismantling America’s domestic manufacturing base.


Almost every one of the dire predictions made prior to the adoption of the NAFTA have come to pass. But what is even more disturbing is the fact that the NAFTA was a direct assault upon our Constitution and Congress’ exclusive power to regulate commerce with foreign nations. In fact, the NAFTA was never about “free trade”. Instead, it created a “regulated trade” which, to this day, is regulated by a group unelected by the American people which circumvents Congress’ exclusive power to regulate commerce ___ the majority of whom are foreigners, and who represent the interests of international corporate giants who have no allegiance to America or any nation. See Establishment of Binational Panels who now make arbitrarily binding decisions concerning America’s commerce with Canada and Mexico, and thus circumvents Congress’ constitutionally assigned duty.


The question is, will Newt Gingrich announce to the American People that he was wrong in handing the NAFTA deal to Clinton and our Global Governance Crowd?


Does Mr. Gingrich still support the notion of a bi-national panel regulating America’s commerce with foreign nations?


Does Mr. Gingrich still support a prohibition on Congress to adopt legislation dealing with the dumping of foreign products in America? See 1904:Review of Final Antidumping and Countervailing Duty Determinations the United States is forbidden to “provide in its domestic legislation for an appeal from a panel decision to its domestic courts.”


Does Newt Gingrich still support American citizens being denied the benefits of our customary due process of law when objecting to sanctions placed upon them by a group unelected by the American People, the majority of whom are foreigners? See 1904: Review of Final Antidumping and Countervailing Duty Determinations the United States is required to amend its statutes and regulations “to ensure that its courts shall give full force and effect, with respect to any person within its jurisdiction, to all sanctions imposed pursuant to the laws of the other Parties to enforce...”


Does Mr. Gingrich now regret having agreed to deprive American citizens access to our judicial system and its customary due process in civil actions involving foreigners? See Annex 1904.15: Amendments to Domestic Laws Schedule of the United States under which the United States is required to “amend section 301 of the Customs Courts Act of l980, as amended, and any other relevant provisions of law, to eliminate the authority to issue declaratory judgments in any civil action involving an antidumping or countervailing duty proceeding regarding a class of kind of Canadian or Mexican merchandise.”


The bottom line is, will Newt Gingrich step up and publically state he was wrong in agreeing to the NAFTA deal which circumvents our Constitution and Congress’ exclusive power to regulate commerce with foreign nations?


Hopefully Donald Trump presents these questions to Gingrich and Mr. Gingrich reveals his current thinking on the NAFTA.


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80% of green energy money taxed away from hard working American Citizens WENT TO our Washington Establishment’s donors!

 

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I'm mostly a Newt supporter.

He was widely given credit for leading the Republican takeover of the House.

That said, your criticism is valid, and should be part of Senate confirmation hearings if he is appointed to a high level job.

He was run out of town for using office funds to buy his own books (which he made a royalty on,) and then giving the books away while campaigning. He only made about $15,000 (a Clinton wouldn't spit on you for that,) but it was unethical.

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I'm mostly a Newt supporter.

He was widely given credit for leading the Republican takeover of the House.

That said, your criticism is valid, and should be part of Senate confirmation hearings if he is appointed to a high level job.

He was run out of town for using office funds to buy his own books (which he made a royalty on,) and then giving the books away while campaigning. He only made about $15,000 (a Clinton wouldn't spit on you for that,) but it was unethical.

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"mostly" - ok

"criticism is valid" - yeah, check.

"it was unethical" - agree there

"(a Clinton wouldn't spit on you for that,)" -duh, that is weak like blaming Bush.

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At this point, I don't care who gave us NAFTA, TPP, BLM, OCUPPY, DREAM ACT, OBAMACARE, or the Iranian Nuke Deal.

I simply want Trump to get us out of ALL OF IT!!!! And then maybe we can point fingers later.
 

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"mostly" - ok

"criticism is valid" - yeah, check.

"it was unethical" - agree there

"(a Clinton wouldn't spit on you for that,)" -duh, that is weak like blaming Bush.

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He got some liberal BS criticism, too. Like serving his wife with divorce papers while she was on her deathbed about 25 yrs. ago........

.............the woman's still alive! :please:
 
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Newt agrees that Washington is broken. He has had no qualms in criticizing the establishment. Trump needs someone who knows the ropes of Washington inside out. Newt is an asset.
 

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This is actually a great post and hopefully Trump will not regurgitate the failures of the past !
Mr. Gingrich has a long history of voting for and supporting countless things which are not within Congress’ constitutionally authorized powers. Some specifics being, the creation of the United States Department of Education; The No Child Left Behind Act; the Fairness in Broadcasting Act; The NAFTA; TARP; bailing out savings and loan institutions to the tune of $40 billion; and the list goes on and on.

Gingrich’s record proves he is no friend of federalism, our Constitution’s plan, and has repeatedly spat upon our Constitution’s Tenth Amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.


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Newt Gingrich is a two headed globalist snake

He's a good man. We all make mistakes. I am willing to look past that if it were my choice.
Let us not forget in 2009 Newt Gingrich would not support the Tea Party Republican, Doug Hoffman, for New York’s 23rd district special election. Instead, he gave his support to Dede Scozzafava, a leftist Republican who, for one thing, won the Margaret Sanger Award from Planned Parenthood. Eventually she withdrew from the race four days before the election and gave her support to the Democrat, Bill Owens. At the last moment, Gingrich suspiciously changed his mind and supported Hoffman ___ when the polls showed he would lose.

Gingrich is a double headed snake and Trump needs to get rid of this un-American globalist.


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To support Newt Gingrich is to support our Global Governance Crowd and their Fast Track Trade Promotion Authority, WTO, NAFTA, GATT, CAFTA, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) deal ___ all used to circumvent America First trade policies, while fattening the fortunes of Hillary Clinton’s international corporate giant donors who have no allegiance to America or any nation.
 

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Agreed Gingrich has more than reached across the isle in the past. He knows the ins and outs of Washington and could be an asset but he would have to be on a short leash. I hope Trump will abolish some of the wasteful departments in DC while he has a super majority. This first year will tell all will he be a sheep or a wolf.
 

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CLICK HERE to hear Newt Gingrich, in his own words, rat himself out!

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If you guys think free trade is expensive, wait until you see what protectionism looks like. Get ready to pay a lot more for everything.

And that is the best-case scenario: if the U.S. pills out of trade deals that were negotiated, and passed, in good faith, then it could lead to a global trade war, which would be catastrophic. It was the Smoot-Hawley tariff, remember, that turned the Great Depression into a monstrous beast.

It used to be that the Republican party was reliably in favor of free trade. That this is no longer the case is both a very bad omen and a sign of economic illiteracy among voters.

This is not to say that the current system is perfect -- it is not -- nor that people who have lost manufacturing jobs do not have a legitimate beef (they do). But anyone who thinks that we will go back to 1958 if we dump these trade deals is a fool: a surge in global protectionism will lead to very, very dark times, just like it did in the 1930s.
 

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If you guys think free trade is expensive, wait until you see what protectionism looks like. Get ready to pay a lot more for everything.

And that is the best-case scenario: if the U.S. pills out of trade deals that were negotiated, and passed, in good faith, then it could lead to a global trade war, which would be catastrophic. It was the Smoot-Hawley tariff, remember, that turned the Great Depression into a monstrous beast.

It used to be that the Republican party was reliably in favor of free trade. That this is no longer the case is both a very bad omen and a sign of economic illiteracy among voters.

This is not to say that the current system is perfect -- it is not -- nor that people who have lost manufacturing jobs do not have a legitimate beef (they do). But anyone who thinks that we will go back to 1958 if we dump these trade deals is a fool: a surge in global protectionism will lead to very, very dark times, just like it did in the 1930s.
Trade deals are good, but Trump is right. We consistently send boobs to negotiate them.

Here's Japanese logic:

U.S. fresh produce can be sent to Japan...but their inspection process is so rigorous and tedious that the produce is degraded or rotten before it gets to market.

U.S. beef has long been resisted by Japan...the reason: Japanese digestive tracts are different.

U.S. ski equipment has long been resisted by Japan...the reason: Japanese snow is different.

When Japan wanted to fill/reclaim a shallow bay for a new airport, foreign bids were prohibited...reason: (you guessed it,) Japanese mud is different.

Japanese families pay seven times the world market price for rice. Their negotiators say it's because Japanese prefer Japanese rice.
(it's protecting the labor-intensive industry in Japan.)

U.S. negotiators can't scream BS! That's Japan-bashing! And the Japanese have some of the best paid lobbying firms in D.C. to make sure that doesn't happen!

....starting to get the picture..? :huh:
 

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If you guys think free trade is expensive, wait until you see what protectionism looks like. Get ready to pay a lot more for everything.

And that is the best-case scenario: if the U.S. pills out of trade deals that were negotiated, and passed, in good faith, then it could lead to a global trade war, which would be catastrophic. It was the Smoot-Hawley tariff, remember, that turned the Great Depression into a monstrous beast.

It used to be that the Republican party was reliably in favor of free trade. That this is no longer the case is both a very bad omen and a sign of economic illiteracy among voters.

This is not to say that the current system is perfect -- it is not -- nor that people who have lost manufacturing jobs do not have a legitimate beef (they do). But anyone who thinks that we will go back to 1958 if we dump these trade deals is a fool: a surge in global protectionism will lead to very, very dark times, just like it did in the 1930s.
Hold on now.
Change nothing because any change will create a catastrophe.
How about we post what we think would be good for America rather than speculation
 

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If you guys think free trade is expensive, wait until you see what protectionism looks like. Get ready to pay a lot more for everything.

And that is the best-case scenario: if the U.S. pills out of trade deals that were negotiated, and passed, in good faith, then it could lead to a global trade war, which would be catastrophic. It was the Smoot-Hawley tariff, remember, that turned the Great Depression into a monstrous beast.

It used to be that the Republican party was reliably in favor of free trade. That this is no longer the case is both a very bad omen and a sign of economic illiteracy among voters.

This is not to say that the current system is perfect -- it is not -- nor that people who have lost manufacturing jobs do not have a legitimate beef (they do). But anyone who thinks that we will go back to 1958 if we dump these trade deals is a fool: a surge in global protectionism will lead to very, very dark times, just like it did in the 1930s.
Thanks for your opinion !

- Now we all know everything will be just fine :D
 

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Have to agree with Belmo, it took us 30 years to get where we are at and we have to be cautious about dismantling our economic system. Manufacturing jobs have been reduced by technology by as much as anything else. A reformed tax system may help to bring companies back and discourage others from leaving but it will take time and patience. I'm a democrat but I still hope that Trump succeeds economically for the Country's sake. The fact that I did not vote for him is irrelevant.
 
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