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I have tortured brokers over the last few months and haved come down to these. I decided I will bury myself with a boat asap for this season. I have a pending deal on the 37 Billfish but can't seem to let go of a 35 Scopinich. I also sea trialed a 27 worldcat just to get the ourboard try. ( by the way these outboard boats really impressed me with their rides) after all said and done I can't justify running/owning big boats anymore. I can't stay away either. I have to stay in the middle. I normally am a very decisive person knowing what I want. But going back down the ladder is much differnt than going up.
By the way South Jersey has been patient with me as I kicked a lot of tires to say the least. They get my business no matter what next week. Opinions Which one HELP!!!!. i feel like my wife picking out a dress for a wedding.......... you know how they can't make up their mind!!!

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2005 35' Scopinich cruises 30kts @ 25gph really loaded up with teak, very sexy and bueatiful. Max speed 36 kts. 114 hrs warraty till 2011

Or new 37 Billfish which i have pending deal on.

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Both boats close in speed , range, fuel consumption. Ocean a few dollars more but not enough to make it a deciding difference.

PS South Jersey Sales people please don't comment. You know who I'm talking about.

This is like reality TV. I can almost write a TV show about what I have experienced with boat shopping, testing etc.

Thanks again.
 

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Thats easy...used 35 ft Carolina Classic Express....yeah I got one...and for me I still haven't seen a boat that fits me better..in that price range..heavy weight battle wagon....great compromise to both boats.....yeah I have to leave a half hour before a 30 kt boat, but who cares...just mho
 

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Wow, that is a difficult decision. I personally like the scopinich because I love the look of a custom carolina boat. Also, I am a fan of the carolina flare and like the teak, although you must be prepared to maintain it for the teak to look good. On the other hand, the Ocean looks sweet and has a unique design and a fly bridge. In my opinion, the fly bridge is one of the deciding factors. Expresses are great for fishing, but when it comes to trolling you can't beat looking down on the spread from the bridge. Very tough choice. If both boats are loaded with everything I wanted (ice machine, underwater lights, a/c power in the cockpit, top of the line electronics...) and I had the time/money to maintain the teak, i would go with the scopinich.
 
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YO VAL,

Taking the plunge again, Good for you < Good for the economy.

I have heard many good things about the Ocean, ride, finish etc...

But taking a 3 year old boat, with same basic stuff, warranties etc.. you don't take the hit as much on the immediate depreciation, as with buying a brand new boat.

If they are close and I know you, I am sure they are both very RIGHT, if it was me I would lean to the scopinich.

That being said, my comments are only merely due to the mighty $$$, If money is not a factor because they are fairly close in price, and you like the layout of 37' with its open salon feel in the cock pit, small bridge, etc. and it just fits your life better than to hell with eveyone and just buy the BILLFISH.

It doesn't seem you can go wrong on either.

Call me today!!!!

Phil
 

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Great problem to have!! Both very nice rigs money aside here are things I'd consider:

37
Bigger
New
Local factory support
Local sales support
More "livable"
Easier to maintain

35
Deprecation dollars "cooked off"
Teak is damn sexy
Love the lines


I have run several 37s they are surprisingly good in all sea states, can't comment on the 35. Another thing to consider is the sound, express boats are loud - the fly bridge puts you further away from the growl at 30+. Big difference in a 2-3 hour run to the deep. I'm partial to Ocean - I've owned a few; for my money they build a solid boat that is livable and fishable. They have always been willing to help even on my 1985 38!

Good luck in whichever you choose - sweet machines. Hope to see you at the Ocean - Viking Shootout...
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Jamie
 

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I really like the look of the 37 Billfish, definately a classic in the making. You recently sold a large Viking? Personally, I enjoy the bridge boats better. I spent 3 sesons on a express and visibilty was poor on the boat I ran. Good luck on your choice.
 

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Billfish

Putting the depreciation and money issues aside I would hands down go for the Billfish. Having owned a open express for a few years I long for a flybridge. It also depends if you are fish only or have a family that wants to use the boat for other things.
 

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I never owned an express boat but I know that vision would be a problem for me. Couldn't imagine owning a boat without a flybridge, as I have grown acustom to the view over many years. I checked out the " Billfish" at the boatshow and instantly fell in love, that boat is sweeeet!
 

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for me for a fishing machine not knowing what its powered with i like the look of the scopinich. but like said above if there is a family need a place for them thats nice and out of the weather go with the billfish.. but me my self if i had the coine ii would go with the scopinich.. but thats just me
 

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As previously said, if your cool with the financial hit of a new boat (install elect., depr., etc.) I loooooooove the layout of the billfish. I haven't been on either boat but count 1 more vote for the Ocean, she's a beauty.
 

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Visibilty

Go for a bridge boat.
 

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I know this isn't in the same league but when I was shopping for boats last year I looked and new vs. used and the value for dollar was in the used boats.

Ended up buying a 2005 that still had factory warranty left for a year and 3 years left on the motors. A key factor was the warranty left on the motors.

I ened up saving @40-50% on the 2 year old rig as opposed to brand new.

But if money is not an issue I like the billfish, I like the retro lines and open salon feel. Flybridge is also nice and if it gets nasty you can drive from lower helm station. JMO
 

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My Guess Is Down Deep Inside You The Billfish Is Calling Your Name. What A Great Boat. Run It Below Or On The Bridge. My Bet Is You Choose The 37'.
 

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Love the looks of the Scop but I was told from someone who fished one that it does not ride that great. IMO the Scop is not set up for long runs to canyon given bridge seating, etc. and is more of a Florida boat. I am sure you have sea trialed both to aid in your decision but I thought I would pass this along. Good Luck and see you on the edge.
 

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With the lower station and open salon now on the billfish love the comfort level scops a little more hardcore tough choice though like the local support!
 

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Go for the Billfisher! Its a pretty boat, economical, and has an awesome pit. From what I have heard the ride is very good. They were out there in the deep for the Ocean/Viking last year and it was nasty!
 

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The Scop is not a Carolina boat. It is Florida through and through. It is well built but was designed for Florida not the rough seas we have off New Jersey.

The Ocean packs an awlful lot into a 37' boat. It feels like is made for small people. Plus the cockpit is nominal. The cockpit gunwales are especially short beind the bridge overhang.

If it were me, I would keep looking. Get your broker to contact other brokers to see what is on the market. Checking just one site showed a 2002 35' Scop that's asking $389,000. The same site has a 1996 43' Viking Express for $349,000 and a 2000 44' Liberty Express for $450,000. They also list a 1996 Stolper Express 38' for $299,000. This site is http://www.macgregoryachts.com/ in North Palm Beach.

I would not buy anything without a thorough sea trial in 5 to 7 seas.
 
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