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I fished Lake Lenape on Friday and I noticed construction has begun on a fish ladder next to the dam on the Egg Harbor river. It will be interesting to see how it effects the fish population in the lake or the herring/striper/perch runs on the river.
 

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Yellow perch, crappies, pickerel are the three main species. There are some largemouth bass and I'm told there are some landlocked stripers too, but I've yet to see one. I think the idea behind the ladder was to give the Egg Harbor herring run a boost.
 

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They still gonna let you jig off the bridge?
 

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yes finaddict5 as far as i know it is

[ 01-05-2006, 03:19 AM: Message edited by: mastergaffer ]
 

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I checked out the 2006 freshwater rules, no changes for HERRING in fresh water still can jig them or net them same as last year. at least in NJ and Delaware river. You will have to stay 100 feet from the fish lader which makes the bridge OK but they will shut down the whole face of the dam
 

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A fish-ladder won't mean jack if they don't make a good run in the first place.


Just remember,"you can't polish a terd"
 

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Fred, I do some tidewater netting which is the only way to legally put bait in the tanks. I hope to have them full come late March or April.
 

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be prepaired.
postd by NIGHTSTRIKES in Nov.,
Herring fishery may be shut down

Posted by the Asbury Park Press on 11/27/05

The end of the era of using live river herring for striped bass bait may be approaching faster than most New Jersey anglers realize.
The fishery was shut down in North Carolina and Connecticut earlier, and now Massachusetts is following suit. Rhode Island is considering a shutdown.

The biomass of bluebacks and alewives is in trouble, and fisheries management officials are turning to the recreational sector for relief.

The river herring population has been slipping for 20 years, but the real collapse began in 1999 and 2000 and has picked up speed since then.

Biologists with the Massachusetts Division of Marine Fisheries, said the river herring run last spring was pitiful.

They found that in the Mattapoisett River, the number of river herring dropped from nearly a quarter of a million fish to 5,000, and in the Merrimack River, only 99 herring were counted.

Biologists and management officials list a variety of reasons why the river herring runs have been so poor: predation by striped bass, bluefish and spiny dogfish; heavy spring rains that discourage entry into creeks, rivers and flumes, and degradation of fresh waters from nutrients and runoff.

Recreational fishermen have another suspicion: The mixing of river herring and sea herring on the offshore grounds creates a situation where the river species is vulnerable to mid-water trawling. Sea herring stocks are not in trouble, and these fish are a marketable product.

Scientists acknowledge that there is mixing of the stocks, and the fish are caught in the nets, but they are unwilling to claim that all of the blame lies with commercial fishermen.

The Massachusetts plan is to prohibit the taking of river herring in all of its state waters and to disallow the use of river herring for bait. It is not addressing the bycatch of river herring in the offshore mid-water trawl fishery.

Joe Pallotto, president of the Asbury Park Fishing Club, began fishing live herring as bait for bass years ago, and he has watched the run in Deal Lake decline from tens of thousands of fish to a handful.

"The water used to be black with them," he said. "Now there's practically nothing."

The New Jersey possession limit on river herring is 35 fish, dip nets can be no larger than 24 inches in diameter and bait seines can be no longer than 50 feet.

Furthermore, it is illegal to take river herring (or other fish) from Deal Lake flume, Lake Takanassee spillway or the Wreck Pond flume on any Monday, Wednesday or Friday during April and May.

"We were screaming about the decreasing number of herring a long time ago," Pallotto said. "We started going to Trenton (the Delaware River) to get herring, but then they closed that down ? barricaded the area ? and, unless you had a boat, you couldn't get any there."

Pallotto said he gave up his herring holding pen in the river two years ago, and has turned to big plugs and bunkers for bass.

"Live herring fishing hasn't been good, anyway," he said. "You just catch little fish on herring now in the spring. I wouldn't feel bad if they closed the fishery temporarily to bring the stocks back.

"The trouble is, I don't know if they'll ever be able to bring them back," he said. "If they don't do anything about the netters, I can't see how closing the recreational fishery will do any good."

The New England Fishery Management Council held a hearing in Cape May recently to discuss sea herring management, and there was no discussion about management of river herring.

The Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission's shad and river herring management board met Nov. 2 in Galloway, and, again, there was no meaningful discussion about the dwindling river herring population.

The board reviewed a proposal submitted by Virginia to allow the landing of shad bycatch of up to 20 fish per day in certain fisheries in the Chesapeake Bay and its tributaries.
 

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Like i said in another thread , I'm not worried about this year the regs are set but i think the 07 year will be the year of change.
And personaly i have no confidence that they would re open the season on them anytime soon.
As long as they are looking soley at the rec sector to correct this problem it WONT get fixed.

The decision to shut us out of the fishery is political and not based on science, so don't get your hopes up for a major stock recovery .
This is just gona a be a feelgood regulation with no hope of succeeding except to push us rite out of the fishery.

Somewhere someone is trying to do the rite thing but is going about it buttf&*[email protected] wrong!

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