do you service older merc's late 60's early 70's? thanks

 

This kind of S@#$ gets me pissed off. Do these people care what they are doing i mean they must made a ton of money by doing this so they dont care about there grandkids getting jobs. I say we boycott all this oversees s$^%. I had to go to Bethleham P.A last week and i'm not sure what river i crossed but it went right through the old steel plant that is now a ghost town. It was a very sad sight and though i do not know anyone who lost there jobs there you could just feel for them. It was like the earth ended there. BUY AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Just bought a Penn combo. The 4400 reel says Philadelphia Pa; the Penn Spinfisher says Made in China. How long will it be before the reels are made there also?

 

Alot of their reels already are.

 

Evinrude/Johnson is owned by Bombardier...a Canadien company isn't it???? How much of those engines are made in the USA?????

 

I'd like to see a list of tackle companies that sell products that are 100% American - im talking from start to finish - no offshoring period.

 

Originally posted by Capt. Scott:
Evinrude/Johnson is owned by Bombardier...a Canadien company isn't it???? How much of those engines are made in the USA?????

Still made in Wisconsin.

 

problem here is the cost of manufacturing-labor...with what unions demand,and the cost of benefits,companies have no choice but to lower their operating costs by moving their manufacturing plants overseas or to mexico where the labor cost is much cheaper...think about this...everyone here on this site expects to pay the least possible price for products and services-right?? how does a company stay competitive??? lowers operating costs.....

 

It may lower operating costs, but it doesn't lower prices. People will still pay $20,000 for their 250 hp motors for their $100,000 boat, whether it's made in China or on the moon. Why does a Dodge truck, made in Mexico, still cost as much as my Roanoke, Virginia, USA-made Ford?

 

If I'm not mistaken... A LOT of parts for the Evinrude/Johnson motors were made overseas before OMC went under...part of their demise WAS offshore parts...like the stator/rotor problem because they were being made in Mexico and the was a gluing problem I thought???

Just because Bombardier bought Evinrude/Johnson....I doubt all the parts started coming from Wisconson again....

Look..I doubt I'll ever own a big outboard again...let alone a Merc....too much money for whai I perceive as a crap shoot in reliability and longevity.

 

Some of you boys should read Thomas Friedman's new book "The World is Flat". By outsourcing to emerging nations we get the benefit of lower prices. The down side is that us Americans need to upgrade our skills or get left behind. There's no use complaining....globalization cannot be stopped.

 

Over the rail import tax

 

Originally posted by OVER THE RAIL:
still cost as much as my Roanoke, Virginia, USA-made Ford?

It might be assembled there, but rest assured, the components are not, nothing and nobody escapes it.....you'll be wishing the part was manufactured in Mexico.

October 19, 2003

Ford, the world's second-biggest carmaker, will invest as much as US $1.5 billion in China over the next several years to expand manufacturing capacity at Changan Ford in Chongqing, Sichuan province, from the current 20,000 units a year to 150,000, by adding a second car plant and a new engine plant.

 

All BRPs outboards are assembled in Stervant Wis. Yes parts are made all over the world but at least they are being assembled here in the states.

 

Where are Mercs assembled????

 

Im not a mercury dealer and I do not know where they are assembled at. I will look into it. I do know its a mixed bag some overseas and some I believe in Wisc. Reading this I would think more are going to be asembled overseas. Also where do you think there cheaper boats are produced? Not in the USA.

 

Here's what the Merc web site has to offer...but my point all along was it doesn't matter what you buy...it all has foreign made parts/materials...

From web site
About Mercury Outboards
Today, Mercury continues its long tradition of leading the marine industry. Mercury offers the widest range of outboards from 2.5 to 300 horsepower in FourStroke, two-stroke direct injected, traditional two-stroke configurations, many available in heavy-duty saltwater configurations. Boaters can custom match Mercury power to suit any type of on-water activity. Mercury outboards are produced in a 1,000,000-square-foot facility at Mercury's world headquarters in Fond du Lac, Wis.

[ 08-08-2005, 09:23 AM: Message edited by: Capt. Scott ]

 

probably ahs something to do with import tarriffs. You know they would do it there if it were cheaper.

 

Edited with respect to a Barn Sponser.

[ 08-10-2005, 12:39 AM: Message edited by: NicholasJ ]

 

OMC was on its way out before the early Fichts engines. And the Loopers what kind of problems do they have besides burning alot of fuel? In the early 90's OMC was purchased by a bank that broke up large companys. This is just what happened to OMC. OMC produced much more then Outboard Engines. Even if the fichts engines had no problems and ran great OMC still would of went belly up at the same time. As for BRP having serious debt where did you find that information? As for extended warranties alot back then sold by dealers were not factory backed companys. When you purchase a extended warranty for you outboard be sure its factory backed. If BRP put out junk engines, what engines are they? How often do you here of a major problem with a BRP product? As for a bribe with a glorious warranty, well they had to offer this during boat show time due to all the other brands offering it so where is the bribe? It sounds to me your one of the ones that got burned with OMC. I know many of people that will not go back to Evinrude or Johnson due to this. I caint blame them. But rember BRP is a totaly different company. They will bend over backwards to help there dealers out which is a far cry from OMC.

 

hey get back to work get my tin boat running so i can go clamin before my vaction is over..

I know many of people that will not go back to Evinrude or Johnson due to this. I caint blame them.

sometime thats all it takes to run a good costumer off,i bougth rude all my life and thinking back never had any real problems.

freedom ots.

 

Freedom will be looking at you Wed.

 

Joe,
I am impressed with your dealership. I am impressed with your knowledge. I am impressed with the new etecs. I am in sales and I just took offence to what I thought was a cheapshot topic. I know many happy merc customers and all these free trade agreements make it tough for business to not outsource. I really feel for the folks in the small manufacuring sector. I also love to buy from folks that I feel are honest and forthright. I WILL be purchasing a new outboard this year and I will be calling you.
Sincerely,
Nicky

PS I am deleting the reference to any other company or warranty. That was BS on me. I only hope the best for any business. The reference to the loopers was reffering to the loose head bolts and lower unit failures.

[ 08-10-2005, 12:45 AM: Message edited by: NicholasJ ]

 

I knew someone was going to say this and I thought about it before I posted it. I came to feel that it was not that much of a cheap shop just a slight one. I feel that we need to take control of this problem we are facing. The American worker needs to come up with a plan fast in order to keep ther jobs. I am by no means a salesmen. However I do see a problem with a company that is so big and is just ripping apart the boating industry. Nobody see's this threat yet with Mercury but mark my words they will be the downfall of this indutry with there business practice. Not just with moving jobs outside our boarders. As for the lower unit failures yes OMC had a major problem with them in there final years. This was the reason BRP did not put out any of these cases. As for head bolts again in the later stages of OMC that affected a few engines. As for warranty issues we ae still performing warranty work on engines as old as 1998 Fichts. It all depends what extended insurance the dealership provided to the customer back then.

[ 08-11-2005, 08:21 PM: Message edited by: barnaclebillsmarine ]