[jschmidt63]

This past week got inspired by flatwings
and decievers
and sculpins
and mouse patterns
and muddlers
and deer hair poppers

so I put them all together.

Maybe it was all that snow making me think of large mouth bass, smallies, pike, sunnies.......

 

[Narragansett]

Outstanding John!!! Very Colorful too.:thumbsup:

How long are they?

 

[Flyguy784]

Beautiful Mr Schmidt, as usual. John, I've been tying on Tiemco 8089's for some freshwater stuff lately. I love these hooks, give em a look see. They look very similar to what you have pictured here. On Pete's comment, the colors look great, very darter like. Look at clousers darters, quite colorful. I've seen many colorful darters in the creek behind my house. :thumbsup:

 

[CapeMayRay]

All nice looking flies. They look like they will catch in both fresh and saltwater. This time of year, tying in the only game in town. Keep up the good work.

 

[dixie noormiss]

Nice stuff Mr Schmidt, as usual.... How's about showing us something with bald eagle and california condor hackles, and do-do marabou???

 

[sparse grey]

Well tied, good looking flies. Thanks for sharing.

 

[VF Fishhead]

Very nice, you do a great job on your deer hair work. great colors and very well trimmed.

 

[Narragansett]

I watched a Chris Helm Video on deer hair spinning, and i understand it to a degree. Obviously Ineed to try it, and watch the video some more..

I took a ride to 2 stores today, and I could not find the hair described in the video.

JS, what type of hair do you use??

Thanks

 

[jschmidt63]

thanks Guys

John I need to try some of those hooks, I am getting low on hooks. Always looking for good hooks to try.

Pete some of the bigger ones are to about 5"-6", probably a little longer then needed. I my get some short strikes but I have some beautiful and very long saddles to use.

Also for deer hair, your best bet is a good online fly shop. In fact, funny you mention Chris Helm, place an order with him through his store, he ships, great guy to talk to on the phone. I just purchased an order from him. He processes his own deer and also resells some. His latest resells is Nature's Spirit deer hair patches, quality spinning deer hair. I told him I wanted a huge patch of natural white/grey, he sent me a 6x12 patch from under the belly for 20 bucks that he processed himself. Its friggen huge. I also splurged and bought these beautiful german made scissors, Solinger, for 47 bucks. They cut deer hair like butter. I bought a few spools of Gel spun X2, that stuff is strong yet very fine.


Harry, I will tie a few with bald eagle and condor, and maybe do do birds, but my stocks are low, gotta pick up some more .

 

[VF Fishhead]

John I need to try some of those hooks, I am getting low on hooks. Always looking for good hooks to try.

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I've been using the 8089's for years on my smallmouth patterns. I love those hooks, fine wire, super sharp you won't be disapointed with them.:thumbsup:

 

[Narragansett]

thanks Guys

John I need to try some of those hooks, I am getting low on hooks. Always looking for good hooks to try.

Pete some of the bigger ones are to about 5"-6", probably a little longer then needed. I my get some short strikes but I have some beautiful and very long saddles to use.

Also for deer hair, your best bet is a good online fly shop. In fact, funny you mention Chris Helm, place an order with him through his store, he ships, great guy to talk to on the phone. I just purchased an order from him. He processes his own deer and also resells some. His latest resells is Nature's Spirit deer hair patches, quality spinning deer hair. I told him I wanted a huge patch of natural white/grey, he sent me a 6x12 patch from under the belly for 20 bucks that he processed himself. Its friggen huge. I also splurged and bought these beautiful german made scissors, Solinger, for 47 bucks. They cut deer hair like butter. I bought a few spools of Gel spun X2, that stuff is strong yet very fine.


Harry, I will tie a few with bald eagle and condor, and maybe do do birds, but my stocks are low, gotta pick up some more .

That's funny, seems to me in the video, he seemed to mention belly hair was not the best hair. The rump was. At least that is what I think I remember. He has an onlune catalog I will look at. I also have another co in St louis that i order from. We are not real bik on fly shops around here. We do have a great place in Taunton MA, but by the time I travel there, and pay tax, I might as well pay shipping, and have it come to my door.

I need saddle hackles too, but I cannot bring myself to part with the money for them

 

[jschmidt63]

Pete

Yeah actually when I mentioned I wanted natural white deer Chris went on and on that there is not much on deers, its on the belly and its not the prime, but the grey and natural next to the white is good. I have used white belly before and like it but its shorter then other areas.

Yeah those saddles are really pricey but I got a couple loads from a guy on, I dare to say, another forum, for very good price, hint...

 

[CapeMayRay]

Was that video on line?. Might be interesting to try something new. It has been years since I spun any deer hair.

 

[jschmidt63]

Ray

I havnt seen his vid. online but if I find my copy I will drop it in the mail for you to check out.

 

[Flyguy784]

I found one big help in the video was the use of a double edge razor blade for final trimming. Really made a differance.
JS, I'll send you some hooks with your swap stuff. :thumbsup:

 

[dixie noormiss]

. I my get some short strikes but I have some beautiful and very long saddles to use.

incorporate a small stinger hook in the hackle, riding point up. won't affect the fly, and will stick it to short-lippers... Hell you're already spinnin hair, what's a few more minutes to put on a stinger???

 

[CapeMayRay]

Good tip on that double edge razor blade. I remember the guy that first showed me, said that was the key to getting a perfect shape.

 

[Greenie]

Pete, what are you looking for in saddles? Check out the whitewater fly shop southern Jersey. The owner, Greg Becker, is very helpful. They also carry discontinued whiting 100 pack saddle hackles in fresh water sizes for good prices. In addiion, they carry Whiting's "new" flatwing saddles, which are about $20.

RE hair, Chris Helm is the go to guy. Great to talk with and I don't think anyone knows more about hair. Give him a call. Which of his videos did you see? The consensus is that his best video to have is "all about hair" - Neil