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It is only too obvious that our Washington Establishment, whose mission is to subvert our Constitutionally limited, Representative system of government, is surrounding the wagons in support of Paul Ryan.

What does Paul Ryan stand for?


FAST TRACK TRADE PROMOTION AUTHORITY

Paul Ryan was on board with Fast Track Trade Promotion Authority and subverting Congress’ exclusive and constitutionally assigned duty to regulate commerce with foreign nations. Ryan promoted ignoring our Constitution and placing this power in Obama’s hands.

Fast-track trade power would allow the President to negotiate trade deals with foreign nations in secret and effectively eliminate the American People’s Representatives from their assigned duty to create legislation regulating commerce with foreign nations. Congress would no longer create the legislation and the process of adding corrective amendments to Obama’s deals struck in secret to insure they promote America’s best interests would be totally circumvented. The only part Congress would have in the President’s fast-track trade power would be an up or down vote within 90 days upon receiving the presidents' deal which effectively eliminates Congress’ assigned duty to create regulations of commerce.

This Fast-tract trade authority is a Chamber of Commerce’s idea to remove the people’s Representatives from amending bad trade deals struck by Obama in secret which are not in the best interests of America, but rather, are deals beneficial to international corporate giants who have no allegiance to America or promoting the general welfare of the United States.

Rep. Paul Ryan gives finger to veterans, confirms he is a Washington snake!

Paul Ryan drafted a plan with Patty Murray which would cut veterans benefits. See Paul Ryan Doubles Down on Cutting Veteran Pensions

What Paul Ryan intentionally refuses to acknowledge is, of the defined and limited powers granted to our federal government by our Constitution, one just happens to be its power over our nation’s military, and that means caring for our nation’s war verteans . Unlike the countless federal government free-cheese programs not authorized by our Constitution and which work to balloon our annual federal deficits, providing for our nation’s veterans is a legitimate and constitutionally based obligation.


Ryan’s “reforms” ought to begin with a twenty percent cut of every social welfare program which is not within the defined and limited powers granted to our federal government. To not do so is to advance the pinko progressive agenda which has made our productive members of society tax slaves to those enjoying the ride on Obama’s free-cheese wagon.


Paul Ryan embraces millions who have invaded our borders!

Paul Ryan is in favor of legalizing millions of illegal entrants who, by their very presence in America, are causing devastating social and economic consequences

Paul Ryan is also in favor of line item veto power being exercise by our President.

Keep in mind the President’s veto power is laid out in crystal clear language in our Constitution. If the president vetoes a bill it is returned to the House that originated the bill with the president’s objections, and the bill [not parts of the bill which the president doesn’t like] is then to be reconsidered and needs a two thirds vote of that House to override the President’s veto which then requires the bill to be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law.

Unfortunately, Paul Ryan is comfortable with taking it upon himself to change the veto procedure outlined in our Constitution and do for the people that which the people have not willingly agreed to do for themselves via our Constitution‘s required amendment process.


Under Ryan’s circumvention of our Constitution, the president is granted extraordinary power to withhold funding for whatever he so desires and this defies appropriations made by law. We were warned about the president exercising such power during the convention of 1787!

''The negative of the governor was constantly made use of to extort money. No good law whatever could be passed without a private bargain with him. An increase of salary or some donation, was always made a condition; till at last, it became the regular practice to have orders in his favor on the treasury presented along with the bills to be signed, so that he might actually receive the former before he should sign the latter. When the Indians were scalping the Western people, and notice of it arrived, the concurrence of the governor in the means of self-defense could not be got, until it was agreed that the people were to fight for the security of his property, whilst he was to have no share of the burdens of taxation.'' ___ SEE: Benjamin Franklin, June 4 of the Constitutional Convention


Paul Ryan also alleges that “Congress has the power to enact this legislation pursuant to Article I, Section 9, Clause 7.” which has nothing to do with the allowable veto power procedure which is articulated in Article 1, Section 7, Clause 2. Keep in mind our Supreme Court has already struck down line item veto powers being exercised by the president.


The bottom line is, this little snake, Paul Ryan, needs to be primaried this coming election and not elevated to Speaker of the House.


JWK

To support Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio or John Kasich is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny which includes giving legal status and work permits to tens of millions who have invaded our borders!
 

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You know you would give yourself credibility if you told us who you support. Your threads are like spam.
 

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Same old same old...

who do you support ?

blah blah blah
I don't support anyone for Speaker of the House at this time. But the Freedom Caucus ought to publish a list of who they support as Speaker since they are the one's who blocked Kevin McCarthy.

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My credibility is established by the facts I post. Not who I support or oppose. Your logic is based on a false premise.
Threats to credibility (emphasis added):

"Spray and Pray: This consists of blurting out a stream of facts or observations before finding out which ones (if any) might actually be of interest to the listener. Probably 95 percent of all presentations fall into this category but when it happens in conversation it makes you look like a blathering fool."

Source: http://www.inc.com/geoffrey-james/8-conversational-habits-that-kill-credibility.html
 

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My credibility is established by the facts I post. Not who I support or oppose. Your logic is based on a false premise.


JWK
My logic is spot on--you should be advertising for "the little blue pill"---cheap!
 

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Whooo careeeessss.
 

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Paul Ryan is the mouthpiece for our Global Governance Crowd

Seems like our media is pressing real hard to get Paul Ryan elected as Speaker of the House.

Every time I turn on the TV some talking head is praising Paul Ryan and suggesting he is the only one who can get the required number of votes.

Of course, there is no mention by our big media of his support for policies which are contrary to our Constitution and not in the best interests of America's general welfare. Instead, many of his policies are designed to carry our the agenda of our Global Governance Crowd.

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To support Paul Ryan is to support our Global Governance Crowd and their FAST TRACK, WTO, NAFTA, GATT, CAFTA, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership deal, all used to circumvent America First trade policies, while fattening the fortunes of international corporate giants who have no allegiance to America or any nation.
 

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My credibility is established by the facts I post. Not who I support or oppose. Your logic is based on a false premise...........JWK
What credibility? With who?
 

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My credibility is established by the facts I post. Not who I support or oppose. Your logic is based on a false premise.


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I have NEVER, NEVER seen you support anyone. EVER.
 

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I have NEVER, NEVER seen you support anyone. EVER.[/QUOTE}

Well, there is some merit to believing that not one single current politician is worthy of support.

Seriously, except for a very few or them (most of which are labeled nut jobs,) I don't trust the morals or intentions of any of them.
 

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Hey i am the first to say they are all full of **** and wish they all could be fired, but it is what it is. You have to work with what ya got and try and push to get things better.
 

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And that is because I find myself having to support the lessor of two evils, which is not a genuine act of support.


JWK
That's true!!!!!!

Hey i am the first to say they are all full of **** and wish they all could be fired, but it is what it is. You have to work with what ya got and try and push to get things better.
And this is also true!!!!!!!!
 

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Hey i am the first to say they are all full of **** and wish they all could be fired, but it is what it is. You have to work with what ya got and try and push to get things better.
Which is why I spend a lot of time promoting specific reforms [such as the Fair Share Balanced Budget Amendment] rather than politicians.


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“Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to America’s future Prosperity“
___ from “Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan”, no longer in print.


 

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Paul Ryan in bed with Rep. Luis Gutierrez when it comes to illegal entrants

SEE: Trump and Luis Gutierrez both like Paul Ryan as speaker

October 10, 2015


In 2013, Ryan was highly sympathetic to the push for amnesty for illegal immigrants (though he objected to the term). In fact, he appeared at a pro-amnesty rally alongside liberal Democrat Luis Gutierrez, the most strident amnesty monger in the House. In addition, he pitched the alleged economic benefits of amnesty to his House colleagues.”


What Paul Ryan refuses to acknowledge are the devastating social, economic and political consequences of allowing 10 to 20 million illegal entrants to remain in our Country.

Like I stated in the op, Paul Ryan needs to be primaried and not elevated to Speaker of the House.


As Speaker of the House Paul Ryan would be able to stifle any legislation designed to end and reverse the current and massive third world invasion of our borders!


JWK

To support Paul Ryan as Speaker of the House is to support a continuance of Obama's illegal immigration tyranny!
 

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So far all this infighting has accomplished …:huh:

I hope Ryan squares off with his party and demands their support. Time for this silly behavior to stop. There is too much at risk now.
 
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