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975 is a awesome reel.

But if it is for a spinning rod than i would say either the slammer liveliner or captiva live liner

People say the captiva is garbage but i have 3 live liners and they are awesome, caught some big blue on them up in montauk.
As well as a giant skate that felt like a giant rock coming up.

I only have the normal slammer but is a awesome reel as well.

And it is alot cheaper than the bait runner. Just as good if not better than it too.
 

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I have a 760L, and 560L. Those reels are awesome. I have caught some big o' cows on them with no problems what so ever. The drag on them performs better than any reel I have ever owned. They are also cheaper than the new shimano bait runners.
 

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For spinning go with the shimano baitrunners. You can get the older models for about $90 on e-bay.

For conventional, I like the lever drag Shimano charter special 1000. These will run you about $120 apiece.It will handle 80# drum with no problem.

Stay away from the Penn Optiva. I've had the reels fall apart the first trip out. My problem is that I bought them 6 at a time. If anybody wants these reels I'll unload them cheap, but I won't guarrantee them.
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If you can find a made in the USA Penn Slammer on e-bay buy it,they were some of the toughest reels made,you can have re-built for next to nothing,the newer made in China reels just don't feel the same..
 

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i have one of the old shimano baitrunners awesome reel, and got a captiva live liner last year caught my biggest striper on it but i think its junk just my opinion, thats why i'm lookin at the penn slammer live liner
 

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Shimano, best

I'm not familar with a slammer, but I used to own alot of different Penn reels, ten of them I can think of off hand. Spinning and conventional reels. Almost everyone of them I had problems with, Main gears jamming, level winds breaking, too many problems for my taste. And this was years ago when they had a rep of being good (don't know where that came from)Late 80,s - to late 90,s I bought Penns.:thumbsdown: I switched to Shimano and never had a problem, not one. I've had and still have seven different reels that are jap-mano's, I was fishing with my first bought baitrunner this fall, I bought that one in 1990 at k-mart. Boated a 36 pounder with it this fall, still no problems. The only thing I've ever done to that reel is squirt fresh water and WD-40 on it, nothing else. and the last 6 years most of the time I didn't even give it that much care, probally put it away wet. 19 years old and doesn't owe me a dime. Davy bought Travis a Tunnus a few years back, expensive, as far as a spinning reel, best that money can buy. Shimano, from there low end reels to there top of line reels, you can't beat em in my book:)
 

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i here you brad but i never had a problem with penn if something breaks easy to get parts , i like the shimanos but i was looking to spend a little less on the live liner compared to a new baitrunner or thunnus , but the captiva the only penn reel that i can actually say is a piece of sh*t
 

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53lbs on a Shimano 3500 Baitrunner. I have two 3500's that have caught so many fish without a problem that are over 20lbs.






 

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I have a penn slammer baitrunner. One 40 lb. drum and one 31lb bass was all she saw untill it was time to fix the reel. These reels are not what you want for bass fishing. I like penn reels but this reels drag system is not made for bigger fish. I wish I paid 40 more bucks when I bought my reel. I was stuck between shimano and penn also. Go with the shimano baitrunner 3500 or 4500. They are very good reels at a low price compared to some other reels. With repairs after two decent fish my penn is over 100 bucks now and I don't want to use it. What if I hook my 40 lber on it and lose it due to a bad drag system on a $cheap reel. Spend the extra 40 bucks now on a better reel instead of 40 bucks to fix a bad reel.
 
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