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Stripers Forever Members - please check out the recent post on our website
www.stripersforever.org entitled "Stripers Forever announces
groundbreaking economic study of striper fishing!"under general news. By
clicking on the post you can read about a study that we have commissioned
from Southwick Associates that we feel will change the face of
recreational saltwater fishing.

There are two attachments that you will see when you click on the post.
One is a very brief description of the study, its scope and its goals.
The other is a letter that explains our idea more fully and tells you how
you can be part of this process. Our goal is build diverse support
throughout the recreational community. We hope for every fishing club,
tackle shop, guide, charter captain, and avid recreational fisher to lend
their name to this document.

In planning and contracting for this study, we have worked closely with
the American Sportfishing Association and members of our board who are
very active in the recreational fishing advocacy arena. This will be a
landmark effort to reveal and prove to fishery managers everywhere that
commercial fishing for striped bass must stop, and that the fish must be
used for its best purpose, which is a quality recreational fishery for the
public of this country. And there are some unique twists to our plan,
like bringing into focus the true value of the striped bass aquaculture
industry, which, with non-ocean polluting earthen pond rearing,can produce
stripers as food for the public in far greater quantities than are
currently available from the wild catch. They doing it already, and it
can only get better - especially with the end of commercial striper
fishing.

This is important stuff! Check it out at www.stripersforever.org.

Brad Burns

P.S. This is the time to get your fishing friends to also join Stripers
Forever. Let's make striped bass a gamefish, and end the terrible effects
of commercial fishing for this great fish. Ask them to go to the website
too, and Join Free today! www.stripersforever.org
 

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I've always wondered why there isn't a large striper farming industry. I wonder if it would be truly profitable for the companies.

I'm also a member of stripers forever and wonder how this research will be received by the public and government.
 

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I wish Stripers Forever would remove the Oceana reports from their Website!

Willie, the Stripers Forever group is using data from the PEW Foundation to support their cause - it's not helping OUR cause at all.

Perhaps if you have Brad's ear, you can mention that to him.
 

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I just sent off a note to him,he usually responds back to me so I'll let you know what he says
I think he is trying to use the data in a positive way but you are right it doesn't play well in the overall
 

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JIM, Here is the answer I got from Brad


Bill - please read our comments to that post. We posted it so that
recreational anglers could see what they are up against, not because we
agree with them. I have pasted below the press release that SF sent
around on the Pew report. Do not worry about our being taken in by the
enemies of recreational fishing; that is not going to happen. Brad


BILL - THIS IS THE STRIPERS FOREVER PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


STUDY SHOWS NEED FOR TIGHTER CONTROL OF COMMERCIAL FISHING

Millions of recreational anglers, not just a few commercial interests,
should have increased access to coastal fisheries, says Stripers Forever.

*******

A new study funded by the Pew Charitable Trusts and designed to blame
recreational anglers for the decline in several marine species fails to
point out how the fish stocks in question were diminished in the first
place -- through commercial over-harvesting.

The Pew study shows that recreational anglers accounted for only 5 percent
of the total catch of fish in U.S. marine waters over the last two
decades. Among fish ?populations of concern,? recreational anglers caught
23 percent, while commercial fishers took 77 percent, according to the
study. Yet the study recommends that participation in recreational angling
be further restricted.

Stripers Forever, a non-profit organization dedicated to eliminating all
commercial fishing for striped bass, totally disagrees with this
recommendation. ?The sensible approach is to greatly reduce the commercial
harvest of the fish stocks in trouble, to manage those stocks for the
enjoyment of personal-use fishermen as well as for the market, and to
eliminate all commercial fishing for striped bass,? said Brad Burns,
founder and president of Stripers Forever.

?The real value of striped bass is not as a seasonal market commodity, but
as a public resource that offers social, economic, and recreational
benefits to millions of Americans from Maine to South Carolina,? Burns
said. ?Yet commercial fishing for stripers is adversely affecting this
highly valuable resource.

?There is a tendency by commercially-oriented regulators to inflate the
recreational catch estimates of striped bass and other marine species,?
Burns continued. ?The regulators do this while ignoring high-grading
[disposing of fish when larger ones are caught] and the under-the-table
catch, as well as grossly underestimating by-catch in the commercial
fisheries.?

Stripers Forever is particularly riled by the notion put forth in the Pew
study that something is wrong because a large number of recreational
anglers want to catch their own fish. ?Imagine that!? Burns said. ?In some
fisheries several million anglers are being compared to a few hundred
part-time commercial fishermen. Market fishing for recreational species
like striped bass should end right now,? Burns added.

Stripers Forever seeks ?game fish? status for wild striped bass along the
entire Atlantic coast. Commercial fishing for stripers is already banned
in Maine, New Hampshire, Connecticut, New Jersey and South Carolina. Even
so, recreational anglers must contend with large minimum sizes and
restrictive bag limits because of pressure on the stock from commercial
fishing in states where it is legal.

To learn more about how to affect change through game fish status, log
onto ww.stripersforever.org.
 

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Willie,

Wasn't the report I was concerned with, but not that it matters.

Last year, there was a report from Oceana about how bad commercial fishermen were, and how recreational anglers were so conservation-minded - StripersForever had embraced that report, though it was released by Oceana which is funded almost entirely by the Pew Foundation. At that time, it was my charge that Pew was just trying to get us all fighting amongst ourselves, and that anything they had to say, even if it were pro-recreational angler, should be discounted.

Pew's goal is to remove human beings from enjoyment of the natural world - in the end, to turn the oceans into a living fish bowl where no man may enter. We can't embrace them when they say something we like, because their ultimate goal is anti-human.

Of course, that's now apparent following their PEW Ocean's Report and the PR that Brad refers to above.

The problem is, Stripers Forever was embracing PEW's Oceana report last year, which remains on their website.

Let's be careful about where we get our information from!
 

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Who is the vice president of Striper's Forever ????
 

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FAA--not going to Florida until January,best fishing of the year is coming up
but thanks
 

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FAA--not going to Florida until January,best fishing of the year is coming up
but thanks
 

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HUTCHJR--Jim.have talked to Brad Burns and they in no way are supporting Oceana ,only use a piece of their data
He can explain better than me if you e-mail him at [email protected]
 

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I believe that the issue of high grading, also known as culling for striped bass is a red herring. There is no market for large striped bass. The commercials would rather have the small to mid-size stripers which bring the best price at the Fulton Fish Market.

This argument has been around for awhile and I don't believe it.
 

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Mike, those letters are pretty intense. I joined SF over a year and a half ago, not knowing the true goals of the organization, other than making the striped bass a gamefish, and off-limits to commercial fishing. I have since read some pretty pointed views from other recreational fishermen against SF. I have not done too much research for myself on the subject, but the letters on your site are making me rethink my support of Stripers Forever. It seems as if there is another motive that is underneath the gamefish status issue. While I still support the issue of making the striper a gamefish, I'm not quite sure if I will be supporting the SF organization. More research will be necessary before I can make up my mind.

Thanks for the links.
 

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GREAT - I SIGNED UP FOR AN ORG RUN BY AN ELITIST.

I LIKE FLY FISHING, AND I LIKE ALL FORMS - CHUNK, TROLL, PLUG, LIVELINE ETC.
 
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