Its been mid to upper 40s and has nt changed much. All our trips have been 60-70 ft. No signs of them leaving(allthough I'm not a believer they move at all_ I think they just become less active. I don't see a tog leaving a wreck to try and find another miles away. I'm no expert by any meams just my guess
Yes they do set traps back there but they are not all females. However, the set commercial poundage for tog (quota) has not been reached in many years. I can't remember the last time it has. The commercial regs have absolutly nothing to do the recreational quota.I've heard that they set commercial fish traps inside the Sandy Hook each spring, catching hundreds of lbs. a day of mostly pregnant female Tog. These fish are on there way to the back bays to spawn. They average 4-5 lbs. and go 15+. This is insane that they allow this fishery each spring, then we have to pay the price on shorter seasons and quotas.
The point being made is that there isn't a mass blackfish migration like striped bass are believed to do.The notion that tog don't move much or migrate inshore-offshore only is false. Now ask yourself why in the early fall, you find the best tog fishing inshore at bridges or shallow spots? Where did they come from?
Actually, stripers would be a good comparison...depending where you live of coarse. In NY/NJ/DE you can catch both species 12 months a year. And they both spawn in backbays/harbors. There are stripers and togs being caught off NJ right now. As far as mass migration...no.. tog do not. I was just pointing out that tog do both, east/west and north/south. Water temp and also the hours of daylight trigger migrations. Lot to learned here..consider Sea Bass. The large/jumbos you see offshore are not fish you see inshore. Yet, the smaller inshore seabass during summer, move off to deeper water, and then south in the fall. Bluefish would be a better example.The point being made is that there isn't a mass blackfish migration like striped bass are believed to do.
Yes a good topic! CMR/site 11 is usually where tog will "winter over" so to speak. I've caught them there all winter thru march in the past. There alot of variables with that area. For instance, this time of year, inshore waters are colder than offshore. CMR area is influenced by colder water exiting Delaware Bay. However, sometime in march, inshore waters begin to warm faster than offshore, triggering the spring movement to inshore waters. So, the dynamics of the coastline have a major impact of migration. The ny bight area/ 17 fathoms offshore and Long island sound/ montauk area are simular. I agree on the baby tog (finger size) spending all summer in the back bays. I have seen it too. Probably survival instinct like Snapper blues.Maybe all the smaller fish at the jetties are the ones that spawned in the back bay? I have seen a lot of baby togs in our bait traps so they are definitely there. My feeling is once they grow to a certain size they stay where they are and just become more or less active. i have caught lots of tog with rust on them, implying they have been there for quite some time.
I just don't see a tog leaving the Cape may reef and swimming to site 11 to find warmer etc. as an example
Again only a guess on my end, but good topic.
never mind will keep my comments to myself.....Yes they do set traps back there but they are not all females. However, the set commercial poundage for tog (quota) has not been reached in many years. I can't remember the last time it has. The commercial regs have absolutly nothing to do the recreational quota.