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Ok guys, I currently have two "surf" setups.... Both have All-Star rods 7' MH rods, one has an Okuma Avenger 65 baitfeeder, the other has another okuma epixor 50 series. The All-Stars are decent rods, but quite flimsy for MH. They are better suited for river fishing that I do. Anyways, I want another 7' rod that can be used for the surf, and also as a boat rod for big stripers. I want something that can handle a 40# fish is luck strikes. I also wanna keep things under $100.

Tica Surf Rod, 10-25# line, 3/4-3oz $80
Ugly Stik 7', 15-40#, 1-6oz $55
Ugly Stik 7', 12-30, 1-4oz $50
TSUNAMI SURF SPIN, 7’, Hvy, 12-25 lb, 1/2-3 oz $50

Anyone have any opinions on these rods? I know Ugly Stiks are almost impossible to break. :thumbsup:
 

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If you want a rod that you can use in the surf and on the boat you are going to suffer on one end of that spectrum. 7' foot is too short for the surf, you want atleast 9' and that is long for boat work.

I have never fished any of those rods, but in my opinion I would try and bump the budget up a bit or you are just gonna be looking for another rod again soon.

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You could probably use an 8 foot Tica or Tsunami if they are cork wrapped blanks and knock a few inches off the handle of the rod if it doesn't feel right in the boat. I have a 8 foot St. Croix plugging rod that I have used off the boat, even for bass in CM rips. Another foot on an open boat isn't much to deal with, but another foot from the beach can be significant.
 

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def get the ugly sticks off your list, they have the sensitivity of a broomstick. I second what ryan F said, 7' is too short for the surf, and a 9' is too long for a boat. I would definatly recomend two sticks. It's worth spending the money on good equipment built for what you're gonna use it for vs the aggrivation from trying to make one stick do the job of two

and most rods on the market should handle a 40# bass, just gotta watch the line rating, and load your reel with enough line and set the drag lighter then the rods line rating and around 1/3 the strength of the line
 

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if it doesn't have to be new,i have a 8' 1 piece custom lami that would suit your purpose.
it will handle 3-4oz and bring in any striper you catch.
if you're interested we could meet and you can check it out.
because you're on a budget,i'd let it go for $75
 

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Ok guys, I currently have two "surf" setups.... Both have All-Star rods 7' MH rods, one has an Okuma Avenger 65 baitfeeder, the other has another okuma epixor 50 series. The All-Stars are decent rods, but quite flimsy for MH. They are better suited for river fishing that I do. Anyways, I want another 7' rod that can be used for the surf, and also as a boat rod for big stripers. I want something that can handle a 40# fish is luck strikes. I also wanna keep things under $100.

Tica Surf Rod, 10-25# line, 3/4-3oz $80
Ugly Stik 7', 15-40#, 1-6oz $55
Ugly Stik 7', 12-30, 1-4oz $50
TSUNAMI SURF SPIN, 7’, Hvy, 12-25 lb, 1/2-3 oz $50

Anyone have any opinions on these rods? I know Ugly Stiks are almost impossible to break. :thumbsup:
IMHO, one of the two things you are trying to do with the rod is going to suffer, if not both, by trying to make this a dual purpose rod. I think you should have 9' to 11' for the surf, and 7' to 7'-6" for the boat. If you were doing inland water and a boat , you could probably get away with 1 rod. You did not say if you intend to plug with these, or stick a sinker and a pork chop on them. I fished the last couple years with some guys using 7' to 7"-6" Tsunami's, and I was impressed with the distance that they could throw a 2OZ. plug( of course aerodynamics of the plug count too). Ugly sticks are just that. They fit a budget, but they do not have a lot of sensitivity to them, and they do not set a hook well IMO.

I fish on a budget too, but I think you have to up your budget a bit, and come out of this with 2 rods. I have a 9" TICA, 1-4OZ. I believe, and it is light and will throw a plug well. I bought it from Cabelas for 55.00 a few years ago. I think they are 100 now. They are decent, but a bit big for the boat.
Good luck on your search, but be careful of ending up with something that really does not suit under either condition
 

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I think I am going to go with the 7' Tica... I almost always chunk bait, and if I am tossing artificials no way do I wanna be using an 8' + rod. I like smaller, shorter rods.... hence my limit of 6'6'' freshwater rods, 6' and 6'6'' striper rods (casting)
 

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For the jersey surf , anything less than 9 ft makes fishing bait a hassle..You can get away with a 8 fter...if you are a plugger but, I like a 9-9.5 fter for plugging and atleast a 10 fter for bait.



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For the jersey surf , anything less than 9 ft makes fishing bait a hassle..You can get away with a 8 fter...if you are a plugger but, I like a 9-9.5 fter for plugging and atleast a 10 fter for bait.



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I agree!I guess this whole issue depends on the amount of time your spending on the beach/boat.If your getting this rod to service you for like some weekend fishing you know only a couple of days a month it will be fine.If on the other hand your going to hit the beach a couple of nights a week during the main run you will have issues.Good luck with your choice.BTW if you hit a fishing flea market or shop online you might be able to get 2 rods within your budget.Once you use a 9-11ft rod throwin bait from the sand you'll never know how you did it with a 7 footer.on the other hand throwin an 8-9 foot rod from a boat is a pain in the A$$.

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Couldn't I just use the bigger metal PVC holders to keep the line up out of the surf? You guys are busting my balls about it which is all good, but it would help if you explained yourself a little. Thanks!
 

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If you are fishing for anything short of cocktail blues and Northen kingfish with 2 oz of weight a 7 Ft Tica surf is going to be to small / light. Rod holder has nothing to do with it. You need a rod with a heavier backbone to toss the weight you are talking about. I have a 7ft Tica and would only use it to toss small metals with a teaser for Fluke in the surf. I have used it off a boat and even there the butt of the rod is to long but you can get use to it. Go buy a cheap 9 or 10 ft rod to toss bait. Andes of the fishing line fame makes a decent surf rod for $ 45.00. The Star Aerial Series if you can still find them will get you a great bait rod for under $60.00. I have heard good things about the Tsunami Trophy being a real good bait stick for a little more.

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I primarily use light sputnit weights 2-3oz, and occasionally 5oz pyramids. Even my light *** all stars seem to have no problems. For casting lures from the beach which I rarely do, I will use my all star or my 6'6'' Convergence EH conventional setup rated for 15-30lb line and 1-3 oz lures. I could also use my 6' EH Convergence rated for 30-50lb line and 1-6oz lures. Either way, I rarely use lures in the surf and when I do they are usually 1oz tops. A lot of times I just cast and retreive a live eel with a 1oz egg sinker.
 

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I primarily use light sputnit weights 2-3oz, and occasionally 5oz pyramids. Even my light *** all stars seem to have no problems. For casting lures from the beach which I rarely do, I will use my all star or my 6'6'' Convergence EH conventional setup rated for 15-30lb line and 1-3 oz lures. I could also use my 6' EH Convergence rated for 30-50lb line and 1-6oz lures. Either way, I rarely use lures in the surf and when I do they are usually 1oz tops. A lot of times I just cast and retreive a live eel with a 1oz egg sinker.

Let me explain why I use a 10 ft or better rod for stripers in the surf.
I like to fish structure ( Jetties & Jetty Heads, wooden groins, pipes ) from the beach. a 9-10 ft Rod gives you the leverage you need to Turn a decent sized striper away from those rocks and other obstructions and even if the Fish gets you on the other side with a 10 ft or better rod you might be able to clear the rocks. with a 7 ft rod You won't be able to turn that striper away from the rocks and or Lift your ROD tip high enough to clear the Jetty head. Think about the Parabolic bend of the rod when fighting a big fish. A 7 ft Rod with the bend of a fighting fish is only 4 ft long.



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I would'nt get anything less than 10' for surf cause if your really into surf fishing you will realize sooner than later that 8-9' is just not enough to get the job done when it's a bit sporty and there's fish breaking rite behind some 5 footers.there is nothing worst than not being able to catch fish cause you don't have the correct equipment.tsunami makes the airwaves that are really good rods at a moderate price. good luck:thumbsup:
 

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I do well from the surf or the boat with a 9ft fly rod. Heavy current around structure or dredging deep with sinking line. You can turn big fish with light tackle if you are lined right and your drag is set properly.

That said, sometimes the fish wins when you are set up light or use fly gear. That's the part I love about this game.
 

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I do well from the surf or the boat with a 9ft fly rod. Heavy current around structure or dredging deep with sinking line. You can turn big fish with light tackle if you are lined right and your drag is set properly.


That said, sometimes the fish wins when you are set up light or use fly gear. That's the part I love about this game.

Good attitude to have, sometimes the Fish does get the best of you,...When your not prepaired for the fish of a lifetime.


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