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Our un-American progressive crowd, Mayors’, Rahm Emanuel and Bill de Blasio included, who assert “we are a nation of immigrants” and “immigrants built this country” to justify their sanctuary cities and prevent the deportation of millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders, intentionally ignore the fact that countless immigrants coming to America from Europe beginning in 1892 and landed at Ellis Island, were not welcomed and were refused entry into our country for a number of reasons.


Arrivals who appeared to be physically or mentally deficient were identified and required to submit to detailed questioning and a medical exam. Contagious disease, poor physique, feeblemindedness, insanity or no means to support one's self were other grounds to be denied admittance because such persons were likely to become a "public charge". And immigrants with a criminal record were also likely to be refused entry. SEE: The Inspection Process


And what is our situation today? Instead of filling our country with immigrants who are likely to contribute to our national prosperity, our country is being flooded with the poverty stricken, sickly, poorly educated, low and un-skilled populations of Mexico and Central America who are intentionally being allowed entry by our un-American president, while American citizens are being made into tax slaves to support the economic needs of this invasion, in addition to suffering the devastating social and political consequences attached to such insanity.


Additionally, our president is specifically encouraging the children of the above mentioned poverty stricken countries to cross our borders with the expectation of finding refuge in sanctuary cities, and an eventual opportunity to bring their poverty stricken family members here, who also are more than likely to become a public charge and ward of the state ____ but loyal democrat voters!


So, what was our forefathers thinking with regard to immigration? Let us recall what Representative BURKE says during our Nations` first debate on a RULE OF NATURALIZATION, FEB. 3RD, 1790


Mr. BURKE thought it of importance to fill the country with useful men, such as farmers, mechanics, and manufacturers, and, therefore, would hold out every encouragement to them to emigrate to America. This class he would receive on liberal terms; and he was satisfied there would be room enough for them, and for their posterity, for five hundred years to come. There was another class of men, whom he did not think useful, and he did not care what impediments were thrown in their way; such as your European merchants, and factors of merchants, who come with a view of remaining so long as will enable them to acquire a fortune, and then they will leave the country, and carry off all their property with them. These people injure us more than they do us good, and, except in this last sentiment, I can compare them to nothing but leeches. They stick to us until they get their fill of our best blood, and then they fall off and leave us. I look upon the privilege of an American citizen to be an honorable one, and it ought not to be thrown away upon such people. There is another class also that I would interdict, that is, the convicts and criminals which they pour out of British jails. I wish sincerely some mode could be adopted to prevent the importation of such; but that, perhaps, is not in our power; the introduction of them ought to be considered as a high misdemeanor.


In conclusion, not only is Bill de Blasio a liar, but allowing the kind of foreigners who are now invading our borders to stay here should be considered as a "high misdemeanor" which happens to be an impeachable offense!


JWK



American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax slaves and forced to finance the personal economic needs of millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders.

 

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​we can't sustain what we have already so we really don't need anymore and getting rid of a few million might ease the pain.
 

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The costs of illegal immigration

​we can't sustain what we have already so we really don't need anymore and getting rid of a few million might ease the pain.
I agree about easing the pain. And just what is the pain American citizens suffer from illegal aliens?


Let us take a look at the destructive economic consequences in just one county in California inflicted upon its citizens in 1995 when this massive invasion of our borders began to accelerate. CLICK HERE and scroll to page 93 for testimony given by JOAN ZINSER before the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY, U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DECEMBER 13, 1995


Good morning Chairman Smith and other honorable members of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims. I am Joan Zinser, Deputy Director of the San Diego County Department of Social Services. I direct the department's Income Maintenance Bureau, which has responsibility for AFDC, Food Stamps and Medicaid eligibility determinations. I am here today to tell you about the effects of illegal immigration on the County's assistance programs, and to present information regarding impacts on other county-funded services.


Impacts on San Diego County

In 1993, illegal aliens in San Diego County were estimated to be 7.9% of the population, or a total of almost 220,000 illegal aliens in a county with a population of slightly over 2 1/2 million. A 1993 Calffornia State Senate report estimated that the State, local governments - primarily the County - and schools incurred $304 million in costs to provide services to illegal aliens. These costs were offset by only $60 million in taxes generated by illegal aliens - leaving a net impact of $244 million.

Welfare Costs.

When a child is a US citizen, AFDC can be granted for the child but not the parent, if the parent is an undocumented immigrant. In 1992 there were 6,414 children born to undocumented immigrant parents in San Diego County hospitals. Each year, the illegal alien parents of nearly 2000 "citizen children" apply for and receive AFDC in San Diego County. The cumulative total of these "citizen child" cases continues to rise each year.

Public assistance is intended to support the citizen child, but is paid to the illegal alien parent and is, no doubt, used by the parent to support the entire family. Costs for providing AFDC to "citizen children" cases in San Diego totaled $37 million in 1993 for approximately 5430 AFDC cases.

Additional costs are incurred in Child Welfare Services. Combining costs for Out-of-Home and Family Maintenance services to families of illegal aliens results in an additional cost of $1.7 million.

Medicaid and Other Health-Related- Costs.

Medicaid services are an increasingly large portion of the costs involved in illegal immigration. In 1992, Medicaid paid for 6,414 births illegal alien mothers. Although studies have shown that illegal aliens use fewer Medicaid services than do the age-equivalent members of the general population, significant costs remain. Delivery costs are greater for babies with mothers lacking adequate prenatal care and many medical conditions are treated more cost-effectively in their early stages. Infectious diseases are also a major concern of the County. San Diego County has historically carried large costs because of illegal aliens with these problems. Costs associated with providing emergency and pregnancy related needs to illegal aliens are paid for under "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." During the 1992 calendar year, an estimated $37 million was paid for "restricted Medi-Cal benefits." Other costs, including uncompensated care in hospitals, community clinics, and other health services elevated the 1993 total costs to over $50 million.

Criminal justice.
A recent 90-day pilot project involved having INS Agents present in the county jails to interview those suspected of being an undocumented immigrant. Approximately 20% of the persons booked into the jails during that pilot were identified as being illegal aliens. With annual bookings of approximatel 105,000 persons a year, it is estimated that up to 21,000 were illegal aliens.

According to the San Diego County District Attorney, 8,521 felony crimes were committed by illegal aliens between 1987 and 1992. Illegal aliens commit an estimated 22% of felony crimes committed in the county. The number of misdemeanors committed during the same period in San Diego County by illegal aliens is estimated to be 17,000. In 1993, approximately 15. 1 % of the costs -accrued in dealing with crimes were spent on illegal aliens. Costs for illegal aliens to the legal system totaled $151 million in the County of San Diego for 1993.

Education.

Recently, a video of students crossing the border and getting on a school bus in San Diego County in order to receive free education was shown nationwide. Locally, we have worked to make sure that this situation does not recur, but education of the children of illegal aliens is also a significant CDSt. It is estimated that $60 million was spent in San Diego County in 1993 for education of illegal aliens.
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And, more recently see:

Illegal Immigration Costs California Over Ten Billion Annually

Dateline: December, 2004

Among the key finding of the report are that the state's already struggling K-12 education system spends approximately $7.7 billion a year to school the children of illegal aliens who now constitute 15 percent of the student body. Another $1.4 billion of the taxpayers' money goes toward providing healthcare to illegal aliens and their families, the same amount that is spent incarcerating illegal aliens criminals.


Texas Faces Rising Cost For Illegal Immigrant Care

Aug 19, 2010

Texas spent at least $250 million in the past year for medical care and imprisonment of illegal immigrants and other non-citizens.

The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer

May 6, 2013

”In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar.”


Judicial Watch: 165,900 Criminal Aliens into US Population Through April 2014

Mar 2015

”Nearly 166,000 convicted criminal illegal aliens were released by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as of April, 2014. This is the analysis of 76 pages of DHS documents obtained by Judicial Watch via Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests. The criminal illegal aliens include rapists, murderers and kidnappers.”

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JWK


They are not“liberals”. They are conniving Marxist parasites who use government force tosteal and then enjoy the property which labor, business and investors haveworked to create.
 

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New York City workers will pay the high cost of illegal immigration

SEE: Study Reveals the High Cost of Immigration to New York State


”The major findings disclosed in the Report include the following: Welfare: Estimated cost — $2.09 billion. A state Department of Social Services survey revealed that one of every three public assistance applicants in NY state is foreign born. Crime: Estimated cost — $269.84 million. Twelve percent of the state's prison population is foreign-born. From 1985 to 1992, the number of foreign-born inmates climbed at more than twice the rate as U.S.-born citizens. And foreign-born inmates are more likely to be convicted of drug offenses and more serious offenses than inmates born in the United States. While foreign-born inmates come from 111 countries around the world, 29 percent of the total are from the Dominican Republic alone. Education: Estimated cost — $3.27 billion. Immigrants make up 13.5 percent of NY City's public school population and the city Board of Education needs to spend over $1 billion to construct additional classrooms for immigrant students.”


Now, just imagine if Mayor Bill de Blasio cared more about New York City workers than harboring illegal aliens. The fact is, doing so would go a long way in protecting the city workers pension fund which is a ticking time bomb! See: New York City public employee pension funds in danger of “operational failure”


”In late January, Scott Stringer, the New York City comptroller, released a report warning that the city’s retirement system, which provides for the pensions of city employees, is in an extremely precarious condition. According to the report prepared by an outside consultant commissioned by Stringer, the pension system, composed of five individual funds, is vulnerable to an “operational failure.” Back in 2014, when he first took office, Stringer had already characterized the system as “hanging by a thread.”



JWK




American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax slaves and forced to finance the personal economic needs of millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders.
 

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Bill de Blasio's sanctuary city policy is a proven threat to the good people of NYC

If you don’t think New York City’s “sanctuary city” stand is insane and a threat to the general welfare of New York City residents and the United States in general, see The City Council’s gift to thugs and terrorists


” Got that? If for whatever reason the feds don’t submit the right paperwork quickly enough, then the NYPD and Correction Department must release the terror suspect, and can’t even tell ICE that they’ve let him go.

Speaker Mark-Viverito and Mayor de Blasio have finally transformed New York into the shining city of their progressive fantasies: a place where violent ex-cons, gang members and terrorist suspects who might otherwise be deported are now free to mingle among us, pursuing their hallowed dreams of a better life for themselves. Just worse for everyone else.”



It is absolutely stunning that Mayor Bill de Blasio has added two new new “hoops” for ICE: The city won’t honor any ICE detainer request that’s not specifically accompanied by a warrant signed by a federal judge.

And the city will still ignore these warrants unless the detainee had previously been convicted of a violent felony within the last five years.

So an illegal alien who served a few years in prison after an armed-robbery conviction, but got out in 2008, and now gets picked up again for a “minor” charge, can’t be turned over to the feds for deportation.”



In a related article one Long Island town is actually under siege from illegal alien gang members:
See: They Keep Finding Bodies’: Gang Violence in Long Island Town Fuels Immigration Debate

OCT. 2, 2016

” The recent murders have exacerbated disputes in the town over immigration policy, which Donald J. Trump, the Republican candidate for president, fueled during last week’s debate by saying that the gangs roaming the streets were made up of illegal immigrants.

“There’s been a huge influx, to be honest with you,” said Ray Mayo, the president of the Brentwood Association of Concerned Citizens, who added that he was upset over undocumented immigrants crowding rental properties. “It seems like a whole new set of gang members who have stirred the pot up.”


JWK




Obama’s mission from the very start has been ___ death to America by a thousand cuts.
 

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Me think’s Big Bad Bill will be run out of town in the next election based on his stellar performance as a big bird @ick…:D
 
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