Used to use 3/0 Kahle in he 80's. In the 90's I went to 4/0 Kahle as size limits increased. As they increased more I switched to 5/0 Octopus about 15 yrs ago and now and still use 5/0 octopus today. For jig rig teaser I typically use a 4 or 5" gulp on I use a 5/0 gammi baitholder. If I use 3" gulp i'll drop it down to a 4/0 baitholder.